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1911 census request please for Cecil Coan...

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MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 19 Sep 2011 23:32

I can find these ones but not Mabel!

1911 census transcription details for: 30 Darnley Road Hackney
RG14PN1142 RG78PN38 RD11 SD5 ED3 SN327


Reg. District: Hackney Sub District: South East Hackney
Parish: St John At Hackney Enum. District: 3
Address: 30 Darnley Road Hackney
County: London


CAWSE, Mary Head Widow F 48 1863 Bridgewater
CAWSE, Edmunds Son Single M 21 1890 Printers Labourer Regents Park
CAWSE, Harry Grandson M 4 1907 Hackney

4 children 3 still living.


Living with daughter Florence.

1911 census transcription details for: 30 Darnley Road Hackney

RG14PN1142 RG78PN38 RD11 SD5 ED3 SN328


Reg. District: Hackney Sub District: South East Hackney
Parish: St John At Hackney Enum. District: 3
Address: 30 Darnley Road Hackney
County: London

SOLOMONS, Alexander Head Married
1 years M 23 1888 Cabinet Maker Whitechapel
SOLOMONS, Florence Wife Married F 24 1887 Regents Park
SOLOMONS, Sadie Daughter F 1 1910 Walworth

Maureen

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Sep 2011 19:36

I see the whole family had lived in US for a while. This is Mabel coming back with them:


UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Mable M Cawse
Name: Mable M Cawse
Birth Date: abt 1884
Age: 13
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 8 Jun 1897
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ship Name: Europe
Official Number: 97855

Wonder if they had people over there that she went back to visit? But can't find her travelling in name of Cawse or Coan.

I DID find a Mrs Mabel M Coan b 1882 on the 1910 US census. Unfortunately, that lady was married to a John J and had been born in New York.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Sep 2011 19:24

Just thought I'd put Mabel with her family in 1901 on here as a reference. I see her family had a US connection with her younger sister.

CAWSE, Edmund H Head Married M 38 1863 Coachman Not Domestic Islington London
CAWSE, Mary J Wife Married F 39 1862 Bridgwater Somersetshire
CAWSE, Mabel M Daughter Single F 17 1884 Mantle Machinist St Pancras London
CAWSE, Florence E Daughter Single F 14 1887 Dress Making St Pancras London
CAWSE, Edmund H Son Single M 11 1890 St Pancras London
CAWSE, Rose A Daughter Single F 4 1897 America Chicago British Subject
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Registration District: Hackney
Sub District: Central Hackney
Enumeration District: 4
Ecclesiastical Parish: Dalston St Mark
Civil Parish: Hackney

Address: 7, Gladstone Buildings, Hackney County: London

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 19 Sep 2011 18:46

Really sorry,Irene-I just don't see Mabel in 1911!!

Sounds like you had a busy weekend. Well deserved!!!

Only 18 more for OH and I. It does get easier,doesn't it????

Best,
Maureen

Irene

Irene Report 19 Sep 2011 15:29

Hi Maureen Thank you for that
I will have a look.
Yes I have been married 50 years and
we celebrated our Golden Wedding 16th September
but had a family party 17th September
+ celebration with friends 15th September
and out to lunch on our own yesterday.
Back to normal today.
Thank you so much for all your help.
Now I need to find Mabel born 1883
in 1911 census.
Regards and thanks Irene

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 19 Sep 2011 13:23

Hi Irene,

Was it your own 50th anniversary ?? If so-many congrats!!! If not-congratualtions to them as well! grin

Now then-I don't think the 1911 family with Mabel and sons (yes,it's Victor,not Ericton) is yours.

Mabel says she's been married 5 years and has had 2 children-both living. I think she's this person:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about George Victor Coan
Name: George Victor Coan Occ:Compositor
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Spouse Name: Mabel Elizabeth Norris
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 19 May 1907
Parish: Holy Trinity, Hoxton
County: London
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: William Joshua Coan Occ:Carpenter
Spouse Father Name: George Norris Occ:Upholsterer
One of the witnesses is James Charles Barton

And Victor is:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Victor George Coan
Name: Victor George Coan
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1907
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 450

Just in case you didn't have this:
California Death Index, 1940-1997 about Cecil S Coan
Name: Cecil S Coan
Social Security #: 549329891
Sex: Male
Birth Date: 27 Mar 1903
Birthplace: England
Death Date: 16 Jan 1967
Death Place: Los Angeles
Mother's Maiden Name: Cawse

Maureen

Irene

Irene Report 19 Sep 2011 10:50

Thank you Maureen for your help that confirms
the same address as Sydney's son 1911 census
472 Hackney Road.
Glitter Baby found the mother
with Elizabeth Barton
cannot find a child born Ericton born 1908
I wonder if it is Harold Victor born 1908
Regards Irene
ps sorry for the delay had Golden Wedding Celebrations
all weekend.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 15 Sep 2011 01:10

Ancestry's version-Coan on image:

All New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 results for Loan
Name Arrival Date Birth Year Port of Departure Ethnicity/ Nationality Ship Name

Sydney Walter Loan 17 Jul 1913 abt 1881 Southampton, England English Oceanic

Merchant tailor Gives last UK residence as 472 Hackney Rd London. Been in US before from 190? -1913.Going to Mobile.
Cecil Sydney Loan 17 Jul 1913 abt 1903 Southampton, England English Oceanic Son. going to Mobile.

I don't see a divorce record for the Coans on NA site J77.

Maureen

Irene

Irene Report 14 Sep 2011 22:26

Well done Glitter Baby I will have
to check that out did not know she
had other children. both born
after husband left for Alabama.
Many thanks.
Kind regards Irene

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Sep 2011 22:19

1911 poss

BARTON, Elizabeth Head Widow F 96 1815 VIEW
COAN, Mabel Granddaughter Married
5 years F 24 1887 Milliner Bishopgate VIEW
COAN, Ericton Grandson M 3 1908 VIEW
COAN, Leslie Grandson M 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1107 Reference:
RG14PN1107 RG78PN37 RD11 SD4 ED2 SN216

Registration District:
Hackney Sub District:
South West Hackney Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
St John At Hackney

Address:
John Campbell Road



Name: Algernon James Coan
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Spouse Name: Rebecca Ellen Wichett
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 01 Jul 1883
Parish: St Mary, Haggerston
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Algernon James Coan
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Wichett

jax

jax Report 14 Sep 2011 22:15

Ummm

Says widow on Mabels 2nd marriage cert

jax

Irene

Irene Report 14 Sep 2011 22:15

What a great help thank you so very much.
Looks like Mabel divorced and married again
so wonder why she left son Cecil with the Coan
family.
That explaines why Sidney Coan is not around
in 1911 England census.
Many thanks Irene
Thank you do very

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 14 Sep 2011 22:03

1920 United States Federal Census about Sydney Coan
Name: Sydney Coan
Home in 1920: Mobile Ward 7, Mobile, Alabama
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
********Marital Status: Divorced
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Nellie Patterson 39
[59]
Herbert W Patterson 21
Morgan Patterson 21
Sydney Coan 38
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Mobile Ward 7, Mobile, Alabama; Roll: T625_35; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 110; Image: 740.

jax

jax Report 14 Sep 2011 21:59

Name: Mabel Mary Coan
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Spouse Name: Daniel Sheehan
Spouse Age: 30
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 26 Jun 1917
Parish: St Mary Magdalene, Peckham
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Edward Henry Cawse
Spouse Father Name: William Sheehan

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 14 Sep 2011 21:56

????
Selected U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1790-1974 about Sidney Walter Coan
Name: Sidney Walter Coan
State: Alabama
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Mobile, Alabama
Naturalization Record Type: Declarations of Intention
Naturalization Record Number: 650

A Merchant tailor born London 1881. Came to US on the Oceanic in 1906.

Living in Mobile Alabama as of 1914.

Maureen

Irene

Irene Report 14 Sep 2011 21:50

Yes thats right but not sure where they both are 1911 census.
Thank you so much.
Irene

Dea

Dea Report 14 Sep 2011 21:50

Just before I go to bed - the marriage:


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Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
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**Cawse Mabel Hackney 1b 1225
**Coan Sidney Walter Hackney 1b 1225
Mulqueen Daniel Hackney 1b 1225
O'Dwyer Catherine Hackney 1b 1225

Dea x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 Sep 2011 21:47

So this must've been Sidney & Mabel's marriage:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1902
>>Cawse Mabel Hackney 1b 1225
>>Coan Sidney Walter Hackney 1b 1225
Mulqueen Daniel Hackney 1b 1225
O'Dwyer Catherine Hackney 1b 1225

Irene

Irene Report 14 Sep 2011 21:42

Thank you Dea
Mabel Mary Coan she had married 1902
to Sidney Walter Coan.
Regards and thanks Irene

Dea

Dea Report 14 Sep 2011 21:34

If you will put some details up on Mabel - I will look in the morning for you.

Dea Xxx