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I know there were 100's of Rowetts in the 1800's Cornwall,but please does anyone know when John Rowett was born and who he married? He is given as the father of Philippa Rowett at her marriage to Thomas Toms on 27 February 1840 in Lansallos Cornwall. Thanks

possible? 1841


Name: John Rowett
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Fowey
Hundred: Powder (East Division)
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: independent means

Registration district: St Austell
Sub-registration district: Fowey
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 145
Book: 1
Folio: 7
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
John Rowett 50
Catherine Rowett 50
Mary Phillips 15


Roy

Thanks for the reply Roy, Did the census say if John was a seaman?

I added his occupation to the census

Occupation: independent means


Roy

Could this be a brother?

1851 England Census
Name: John Rowett
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Visitor
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Polperro, Cornwall, England
Civil parish: Liverpool
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 6 Grove St

Occupation: Ship Broker

Condition as to marriage: Unmarried

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Mount Pleasant
Piece: 2183
Folio: 377
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
William North 45
Lucy North 40
Joseph Leach 24
John Rowett 28
Jane Johns 18

What about this? Talland Bay is only 2½ km from Polperro

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Phil Rowett
gender: Female <<<<<
baptism/christening date: 20 Jul 1816
baptism/christening place: TALLAND,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
father's name: John Rowett
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: C05326-1

Sorry Roy, I missed it!

Thanks Ozibird, this John could well be Philippa's brother, and the second message looks very promissing.

Found this on familysearch.org - based on her age in the 1861 census is this Phillipa?

Phil Rowett
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Cornwall, England
parents: John Rowett, Elizabeth
record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Phil Rowett
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 20 Jul 1816
baptism/christening place: TALLAND,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
father's name: John Rowett
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: C05326-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 916986

Snap, Ozibird - didn't see your reply

I was getting hopeful there for a minute Lynski, but my Philippa was married and living in Hull in the 1861 census. Its a great shame because the dates and places seem a good match. thanks for your help

So, this is not your Philippa???

1861 census -
TOMS, Thomas Head Married M 48 1813 Coast Guards Man
Polperro ... VIEW
TOMS, Philippa Wife Married F 44 1817
Polperro ... VIEW
TOMS, Catherine Daughter F 13 1848
Huntsley Norfolk VIEW
TOMS, Amelia Daughter F 11 1850
Huntsley Norfolk VIEW
TOMS, Margaret Daughter F 3 1858
Sheringham Norfolk VIEW

RG number: RG09 Piece: 1202 Folio: 69 Page: 1
Registration District: Erpingham Sub District: 2 Cromer Enumeration District: 6 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Sheringham Lower Municipal Borough:
Address: Coast Guard House, Sheringham Lower County: Norfolk

1851 census??????????? Badly transcribed????

SIMS, Thomas Head Married M 38 1813 Coastguardmen
Polperro Cornwall VIEW
SIMS, Philips Wife Married F 35 1816
Polperro Cornwall VIEW
SIMS, Philips Daughter F 10 1841 Scholar
Polperro Cornwall VIEW
SIMS, Elizabeth Daughter F 8 1843 Scholar
Plymouth Devonshire VIEW
SIMS, Alice Daughter F 6 1845 Scholar
Plymouth Devonshire VIEW
SIMS, Caroline Daughter F 4 1847
Mundsley Norfolk VIEW
SIMS, Melia Daughter F 1 1850
Mundsley Norfolk VIEW

RG number: HO107 Piece: 1809 Folio: 218 Page: 23
Registration District: Erpingham Sub District: Walsham Enumeration District: 10 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Mundesley Municipal Borough:
Address: Coast Guard Building, Mundesley County: Norfolk

yes Lynski, she's the one. I mixed the data up!! it was her daughter Philippa who was in Hull in 1861, sorry

Here's the family mistranscribed on 1851.

1851 England Census
Name: Philips Jones
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Jones
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Polperro, Cornwall, England
Civil parish: Mundesley
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street Address: Mundesley

Registration district: Erpingham
Sub-registration district: North Walsham
Piece: 1809
Folio: 218
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Jones 38 - Coastguardman; Polperro
Philips Jones 35
Philipi Jones 10 - Polperro
Elizabeth Jones 8
Alice Jones 6
Caroline Jones 4 [mistranscribed as Catherine on 1861]
Melia Jones 1[Amelia on 1861]

All other children Mundesley

1841 census???

BROWN, William M 50 1791 Devon
BROWN, Sarah F 55 1786 Devon
BROWN, Elizabeth F 21 1820 Devon
BROWN, Mary F 18 1823 Devon
BROWN, William M 16 1825 Devon
TUCKER, Susan F 30 1811 Devon
LANGMAID, Reginald M 40 1801
LANGMAID, Jane F 40 1801 Devon
LANGMAID, Sophia F 20 1821 Devon
LANGMAID, John M 12 1829
LANGMAID, Mary F 10 1831 Ireland
LANGMAID, Elizabeth F 5 1836 Devon
LANGMAID, Randoll M 2 1839
TOMS, Jane F 60 1781
TOMS, Elizabeth F 17 1824
PUCKEY, William M 24 1817
PUCKEY, Alice F 21 1820
TOMS, Philipa F 24 1817 ************
TOMS, Philipa F 0 (11 months) 1841 ************

RG number: HO107 Piece: 269 Book/Folio: 17 Page: 29
Registration District: Plymouth Sub District: St Andrew Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: St Andrew Municipal Borough: Plymouth
Address: Batter St, St Andrew, Plymouth County: Devonshire

Many thanks Ozibird and Lynski, but I was looking for this Philippa's mother and father. She got married in 1840 so her father John should be still alive in 1841 census but I haven't found him yet. unless it was the one Roy found. But he shouldn't be in St Austell (John not Roy!!)

Thanks for your help everyone. I don't know what time it is with you, but it's nearly midnight here, so I'm closing down for the night. Kev

The 1841 i posted for John he was not actually in St Austell it.self, but address was Fowey which is between Lansallos and St Austell,

Fowey is in registration district St Austell

Roy

This is a possibility, when following the christening of Phil.

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: John Rowett
bride's name: Elizabeth Forward
marriage date: 18 Sep 1799
marriage place: Lansallos, Cornwall, England
indexing project (batch) number: I07615-5


or, if following Roy's 1841 census.

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: John Rowett
bride's name: Catherine Menhear
marriage date: 27 Sep 1813
marriage place: St. Austell, Cornwall, England
indexing project (batch) number: I02348-3

These are the only Rowetts in Polperro which comes under the parish of Talland.

1841:
Thomas Rowett abt 1786 Cornwall, England Talland, Cornwall
Grace Rowett abt 1801 Cornwall, England Talland, Cornwall
Mary Rowett abt 1831 Cornwall, England Talland, Cornwall
Martha Rowett abt 1838 Cornwall, England Talland, Cornwall

If you decide on the Talland Rowetts then Phil was born some years after their marriage and therefore her parents were probably older than the norm and may be dead by 1841.