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Gillian
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9 Sep 2011 11:12 |
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Hello All, Trying to trace my Grand Father Harold Bowler, and Grand Mother Sara Dunwell who were possibly married in Keighley area, and lived in Fairburn near Ferrybridge at a bungalow called Woodside not far from Lumby Lane before and during WW2 Thanks .
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PricklyHolly
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9 Sep 2011 11:14 |
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Hello Gillian and welcome to the boards.
When were your Grandparents born?
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brummiejan
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9 Sep 2011 11:15 |
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Have you checked Freebmd for marriage etc?
This must be them - maybe it was a double wedding!
Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%) Bowler Alfred Harold Bramley 9b 439 Dunwell Fred Bramley 9b 439 Dunwell Sarah Bramley 9b 439 Monks Clara Bramley 9b 439
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9 Sep 2011 11:17 |
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BOWLER, Alfred Harold Head Married M 27 1884 Colliery Byworkman Below Ground Lincolnshire Grantham VIEW BOWLER, Sarah Ann Wife Married 7 years F 27 1884 Yorkshire Castleford VIEW BOWLER, Nellie Daughter F 4 1907 Yorkshire Leeds VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 28352 Reference: RG14PN28352 RG78PN1622 RD516 SD1 ED18 SN20 Registration District: Tadcaster Sub District: Aberford Enumeration District: 18 Parish: Ledsham Address: Newton Castleford County: Yorkshire (West riding)
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PricklyHolly
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9 Sep 2011 11:19 |
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Is this the marriage?
Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%) Bowler Alfred Harold Bramley 9b 439 Dunwell Sarah Bramley 9b 439
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PricklyHolly
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9 Sep 2011 11:25 |
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West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about Sarah Dunwell Name: Sarah Dunwell Birth Year: abt 1885 Age: 19 Marriage or Bann Date: 2 Jan 1904 Parish: New Wortley, St John The Baptist Father's Name: Charles Dunwell Spouse's Name: Alfred Harold Bowler Spouse's Father's Name: Frederick William Bowler
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9 Sep 2011 11:27 |
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1891 - Sarah does have a brother Fred.
Name: Sarah J Dunwell Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Charles Dunwell Mother's Name: Rose A Dunwell Gender: Female Where born: Castleford, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Ledsham Ecclesiastical parish: Ledsham Town: Newton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: Middle Row
Registration district: Tadcaster Sub-registration district: Aberford ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3880 Folio: 85 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Charles Dunwell 38 Coal Miner Rose A Dunwell 32 Fred Dunwell 11 Annie Dunwell 9 Sarah J Dunwell 7 Tom Dunwell 4 Lizzie Dunwell 2 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3880; Folio 85; Page 12; GSU roll: 6098990
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9 Sep 2011 11:27 |
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1901 England Census about Alfred H Bowler Name: Alfred H Bowler Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Relation: Son Father's Name: Frederick Bowler Mother's Name: Emma Bowler Gender: Male Where born: Grantham, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Wortley Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Bramley Sub-registration district: Wortley [Near Leeds] ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 120 Piece: 4209 Folio: 120 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Bowler 40 Emma Bowler 39 Alfred H Bowler 17 Edith M Bowler 12 Arthur Jameson 25 (Boarder)
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9 Sep 2011 11:28 |
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1891 England Census about Alfred H Bowler Name: Alfred H Bowler Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Relation: Son Father's Name: Frederick Bowler Mother's Name: Emma Bowler Gender: Male Where born: Grantham, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Wortley Ecclesiastical parish: Armley Hall Holy Trinity County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Bramley Sub-registration district: Wortley [Near Leeds] ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3678 Folio: 36 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Bowler 31(Railway Shunter) Emma Bowler 29 Annie Bowler 9 Alfred H Bowler 7 Nellie Bowler 4 Edith M Bowler 2
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PricklyHolly
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9 Sep 2011 11:32 |
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1911 census - household transcription Person: BOWLER, Frederick William Address: 18 Grange St New Wortley BOWLER, Frederick William Head Married M 49 1862 Railway Servant Wavendon Bucks VIEW BOWLER, Emma Wife Married 28 years F 47 1864 Muston Leicester VIEW BOWLER, Charles Harold Grandson M 6 1905 New Wortley Leeds Yorks VIEW BOWLER, Fredy Grandson M 1 1910 Newton Castleford Yorks VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 26882 Reference: RG14PN26882 RG78PN1545 RD499 SD3 ED12 SN64 Registration District: Bramley Sub District: Wortley Enumeration District: 12 Parish: Armley and Bramley Address: 18 Grange St New Wortley County: Yorkshire (West riding) (4 children born, 2 living)
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9 Sep 2011 11:33 |
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Name: Alfred H Bowler Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Relation: Son Father's Name: Frederick Bowler Mother's Name: Emma Bowler Gender: Male Where born: Grantham, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Wortley Ecclesiastical parish: Armley Hall Holy Trinity County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:Renton Place
Registration district: Bramley Sub-registration district: Wortley [Near Leeds] ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3678 Folio: 36 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Bowler 31 Railway Shunter, b. Wavendon, Buckinghamshire, Emma Bowler 29 b. Muston, Leicestershire Annie Bowler 9 Alfred H Bowler 7 Nellie Bowler 4 Edith M Bowler 2 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3678; Folio 36; Page 10; GSU roll: 6098788.
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9 Sep 2011 11:41 |
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One of the children that died?
Deaths Sep 1892 Bowler Nellie 5 Leeds 9b 298
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PricklyHolly
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9 Sep 2011 12:12 |
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On the 1911 census for Alfred and Sarah............it states 3 children born and living. So the Grandchildren with Frederick and Emma must belong to them.
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9 Sep 2011 12:33 |
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Births Sep 1904 BOWLER Charles Harold Bramley 9b 375 Births Dec 1906 Bowler Nellie Bramley 9b 319 Births Sep 1909 Bowler Frederick William Tadcaster 9c 1022 Births Dec 1911 Bowler Florence Dunwell Tadcaster 9c 1931
Deaths Sep 1941 Bowler Alfred H 58 Pontefract 9c 213
Deaths Mar 1947 Bowler Sarah A 62 Pontefract 2c 805
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PricklyHolly
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9 Sep 2011 12:43 |
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Sarah is not with the family in 1901
1901 England Census about Fred Dunwell Name: Fred Dunwell Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Son Father's Name: Chas Dunwell Mother's Name: Rose A Dunwell Gender: Male Where born: Stanks, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Ledsham Ecclesiastical parish: Newton Town: Lesham With Fairburn County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Tadcaster Sub-registration district: Aberford ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 66 Piece: 4432 Folio: 47 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Chas Dunwell 47 Rose A Dunwell 43 Fred Dunwell 21<<<Born Stanks Yorkshire Lizzie Dunwell 12 Lily Dunwell 9 Flory Dunwell 7 Charley Dunwell 4 Lova Dunwell 2
It seems it was a double marriage....
West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about Fred Dunwell Name: Fred Dunwell Birth Year: abt 1881 Age: 23 Marriage or Bann Date: 2 Jan 1904 Parish: New Wortley, St John The Baptist Father's Name: Charles Dunwell Spouse's Name: Clara Monks Spouse's Father's Name: Arthur Monks
Household Record 1881 British Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Charles DUNWELL Head M Male 26 Hopperton, York, England Manager Of Brick Yard Rose Ann DUNWELL Wife M Female 22 Hunslet, York, England Frederick DUNWELL Son Male 1 Stanks, York, England
Source Information: Dwelling Scholes Census Place Barwick In Elmet, York, England
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9 Sep 2011 12:44 |
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1911 census - household transcription Person: DUNWELL, Fred Address: Newton Castleford DUNWELL, Fred Head Married 7 years M 31 1880 Coal Miner Hewerr Yorks Stanks VIEW DUNWELL, Clara Wife Married F 30 1881 Yorks Crosgates VIEW DUNWELL, Ethel Mary Daughter F 8 1903 Yorks Bowers VIEW DUNWELL, Nora Daughter F 5 1906 Yorks Newton VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 28352 Reference: RG14PN28352 RG78PN1622 RD516 SD1 ED18 SN14 Registration District: Tadcaster Sub District: Aberford Enumeration District: 18 Parish: Ledsham Address: Newton Castleford County: Yorkshire (West riding)
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9 Sep 2011 13:04 |
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Rose died and Charles remarried.....
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Rose Ann Dunwell Name: Rose Ann Dunwell Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1907 Age at Death: 47 Registration district: Tadcaster Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 9c Page: 586
1911 census - household transcription Person: DUNWELL, Laura Address: Newton Castleford DUNWELL, Charles Head Married M 54 1857 Coal Miner Hewer Yorks Hopperton DUNWELL, Ada Wife Married 2 years F 44 1867 Yorks Garforth DUNWELL, Laura Daughter F 12 1899 School Yorks Newton DUNWELL, Ada Daughter F 7 1904 Yorks Newton DUNWELL, Margaret May Daughter F 1 1910 Yorks Newton RG number: RG14 Piece: 28352 Reference: RG14PN28352 RG78PN1622 RD516 SD1 ED18 SN32 Registration District: Tadcaster Sub District: Aberford Enumeration District: 18 Parish: Ledsham Address: Newton Castleford County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%) DUNWELL Charles Tadcaster 9c 1433 GEE Ada Tadcaster 9c 1433
Charles and Rose's marriage....
West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about Charles Dunwell Name: Charles Dunwell Birth Year: abt 1854 Age: 24 Marriage or Bann Date: 29 Dec 1878 Parish: Seacroft, St James Father's Name: Thomas Dunwell Spouse's Name: Rose Ann Abbott Spouse's Father's Name: James Abbott
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PricklyHolly
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9 Sep 2011 13:17 |
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Here is Sarah in 1901. It has been mistranscribed because the writing on the image is not clear....
1901 England Census about Sarah Dunnan Name: Sarah Dunnan Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Castleford, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Leeds Ecclesiastical parish: St George County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: West Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 58 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 238 Piece: 4236 Folio: 41 Page Number: 41 Household Members: Name Age Annie M Kendall 41 Louisa Hanson 13 Sarah Dunnan 17<<<<<< Domestic Servant. Arthur L Ashbey 23 Wilfred Sarley 24 Mary Galentencken 50 Fred Galentencken 21 Margaret Galentencken 19 Charles Galentencken 17 Clara Galentencken 16 Bernard Galentencken 15 William Matkin 21
I have submitted a correction.
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PricklyHolly
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9 Sep 2011 13:29 |
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I have PMd Gillian.........hopefully she will find her way back to her thread. :-)
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Gillian
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9 Sep 2011 13:43 |
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Wow! That certainly looks like they are in there. Sarah was in Service and Harold was a Collier to start with but he got 'the Dust' and then became a gardener and handyman I think. There were at least three Dunwell brothers Charles Thomas and Frederick. Harold and Sarah's children were Nellie, Nancy Florence, Maude Iris, Editn Mary, Barbara and Rose, sadli I cannot remember the names of the boys but I think that there were only 2. Thankyou for all your contributions I will spend the weekend going through itall! I have also been researching Ashmores ('cos I am one) and memebrs of the site have been both generous and helpful! Thanks again . Jill :-D
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