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Nathan Robert

Nathan Robert Report 27 Aug 2011 17:48

I'm having some trouble trying to find the mother of an ancestor of mine Joseph Claydon. The trouble arises from the fact it looks like he was illegitimate. On the 1911 census he is found living in Warwick with his wife and children, giving his date of birth as 1872 from Welford on Avon in Gloucester. On the IGI there is a record of his christening in Welford, the only name given being that of his mother, Harriet Claydon. On the 1881 census he is living with his aunt and uncle John and Ester Climber in Warwick (looks likely Ester was his aunt by blood as her birthplace is listed as Welford). I havent yet looked for him on the 1891 + 1901 censuses. However, I cannot find anything on Harriet Claydon. Without a year of birth this is rather difficult. I have tried looking on the BMDs but there is no entry for Joseph's birth in the right area/year so I cannot get a birth certificate. I am not sure as to whether Harriet died between 1871-1881 and so left her kid with his aunt and uncle or if she dumped it upon them and left. I have tried looking for Harriet Claydon's in the Gloucestershire area on the 1871 census but without a date it's hard to narrow one down. Anyone had a similar problem who could give me some advice as to how to proceed? Thanks

Nathan Robert

Nathan Robert Report 27 Aug 2011 17:53

There is a Harriet E Clayton in Cheltenham in the 1871 census, the only claydon/phonetic sounding surname there is, actually, but have run out of credits to check her out, might try freecen

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Aug 2011 17:58

This one?

CLAYTON, John Head M 52 1819 Yorkshire (b Attercliffe?) < Innkeeper
CLAYTON, Sarah Wife F 53 1818 Gloucestershire
CLAYTON, Sarah A Daughter F 25 1846 Gloucestershire
CLAYTON, Harriet E Daughter F 17 1854 Gloucestershire b Cheltenham
CLAYTON, John Son M 12 1859 Gloucestershire
JORDAN, Sarah Ann Servant F 24 1847 Gloucestershire

Registration District: Cheltenham
Sub District: Cheltenham
Enumeration District: 41
Civil Parish: Cheltenham
Municipal Borough: Cheltenham

Address: High Street Shakespear Inn, Cheltenham County: Gloucestershire

Nathan Robert

Nathan Robert Report 27 Aug 2011 18:03

That's the lady. Thank you for the look up. Not sure if it's the Harriet I'm looking for though, although it still could be. Not having a date of birth for Harriet is really hamstringing my search!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Aug 2011 18:07

1901:

CLEAVER, Julia Head Widow F 52 1849 Hose Leicestershire
CLEAVER, Mary Daughter Single F 25 1876 Hose Leicestershire
CLEAVER, Mark E Son Single M 19 1882 Bricklayers Labourer New Bilton Warwickshire
CLEAVER, Kate Daughter Single F 15 1886 General Domestic New Bilton Warwickshire
CLEAVER, Tom Son Single M 12 1889 New Bilton Warwickshire
CLAYDON, Joseph Boarder Single M 28 1873 General Labourer Wellford on Avon Gloucestershire
BROMWICH, Frederick Boarder Single M 24 1877 Bricklayers Labourer Lilbourne Northamptonshire

Registration District: Rugby
Sub District: Rugby
Enumeration District: 14
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Oswalds
Civil Parish: Bilton

Address: 23, Pinfold Street, Bilton County: Warwickshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Aug 2011 18:11

Have you looked for John and Ester's marriage to see what Ester's maiden name was? Could she have been Harriett's sister?

EDIT:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1856
Climer John Warwick 6d 601
Grimmell Esther Warwick 6d 601
GRIMMETT Esther Warwick 6d 601

Nathan Robert

Nathan Robert Report 27 Aug 2011 18:16

Marie, I was thinking that and just looking on FreeBMD and IGI when I saw your recent message! Unfortunately, I can't seem to find any mention at all of any of those parties. Was hoping to find Ester's maiden name and then see what Sarah's maiden name was, as it seems more likely that Ester would be a great aunt to Joseph as on the 1881 census she is born in 1826, Welford, her husband John Climber 1828, St. Nicholas Warwick

Nathan Robert

Nathan Robert Report 27 Aug 2011 18:16

Ah, looks like you're doing better than me! Thank you!

Mary

Mary Report 27 Aug 2011 18:28

1841 Welford D8 >3 Harriott Claydon 1838
Esther Grimmett 1826 relation unknown.

As posted above Esther married 1856.

Maryb

Nathan Robert

Nathan Robert Report 27 Aug 2011 18:30

Hey, thanks for that. Sorry, probably been staring at a screen for too long, my brain's gone to sleep, but what does your post mean Mary, sorry!

Nathan Robert

Nathan Robert Report 27 Aug 2011 18:33

Sorry, I have been a massive idiot! Have no idea why I didn't do this sooner and search for the birth of a Harriet Claydon. Well, didn't I just find one harriet Claydon born in Welford in 1839!

Mary

Mary Report 27 Aug 2011 18:38

Maybe this is it.
Michael and Martha Grimmit christened Esther 29/1/1826.

Martha Grimmet married James Claydon 9/9/1827 (So did Michael Grimmet die ??)

Esther Grimmet christened Martha 1846.

Maryb.

EDIT Harriett down as Clayton in 1839 to James and Martha Clayton (Claydon).

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 27 Aug 2011 18:38

JAMES CLAYDON
MARTHA GRIMMIT Family
Marriage: 09 SEP 1827 Welford-On-Avon, Gloucester, Englan

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Aug 2011 18:41

I think Mary means the 1841 census:

CLAYDON, James M 50 1791 < Agricultural Labourer
CLAYDON, Marther F 40 1801
CLAYDON, Thomas M 13 1828 Gloucestershire
CLAYDON, William M 12 1829 Gloucestershire
CLAYDON, Joseph M 8 1833 Gloucestershire
CLAYDON, Richard M 4 1837 Gloucestershire
CLAYDON, Eliza F 18 1823
CLAYDON, Charlotte F 9 1832 Gloucestershire
CLAYDON, Marther F 6 1835 Gloucestershire
CLAYDON, Harriott F 3 1838 Gloucestershire
CLAYDON, Allice F 0 (11 months) 1841 Gloucestershire
GRIMNIETT, Esther F 15 1826 Gloucestershire

Registration District: Stratford on Avon
Sub District: Old Stratford
Civil Parish: Welford

Address: Village Of Welford, Welford County: Gloucestershire

Nathan Robert

Nathan Robert Report 27 Aug 2011 18:41

This is all coming together now, as Harriet's parentage on the IGI is listed as a James Claydon and a Martha - this must be Martha Grimmit

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Aug 2011 18:44

Yes, I KNEW I was on the right track! ;-)

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 27 Aug 2011 18:44

Harriet Clayton
Birth: 1839 Welford, , Gloucester, England
Father: James Clayton Family
Mother: Martha

Submitted but is on a Census

Mary

Mary Report 27 Aug 2011 18:45

Michael Grimmit married Martha Savegar 14/7/1825 All Saints Hereford.

Maryb.

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 27 Aug 2011 18:46


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ESTHER GRIMET

Christening: 29 JAN 1826 Welford-On-Avon, Gloucester, England
Father: MICHAEL GRIMET Family
Mother: MARTHA

Nathan Robert

Nathan Robert Report 27 Aug 2011 18:47

Thanks everyone, all be incredibly helpful, really like it when a mystery comes together with some help from the community - thank you!