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Yes he did say Alice, that was why I wondered if I had the wrong ones on the census ??

Barbara x

you are most welcome Barbara

In Richards opening post he writes his grandparents are Alice and William but on all other posts she is listed as Annie

Thank you for adding the link to that site Quoy --I have been on there for hours !!!
Its also now in my favorites.

We just need Richard to come back to let us know if he has found any dates.
to see if it was the baby or not

Barbara x

Well done Barbara I have amended the grave details .I am off now to try and find a connection

Hi

Good find Quoy--I think this is the Robert Henry Hughes in the Yeoman grave
666

Burial Date Deceased Cemetery Grave Number Grave Details
>>>>>04/04/1923 Robert Henry Hughes Southern Cemetery UChurch of England 666

(if he was in "position 2" in the grave then he would have been burried between 1920 and 1926)

This is the other one in grave 1428
02/09/1977 Robert Henry Hughes Southern Cemetery MRoman Catholic 1428 View details


So Maybe the Birth and Death index for the Robert Henry burried with the Yeomans

Births Sep 1922
Hughes Robert H ----mothers maiden name- Madeley --Chorlton 8c 1424


Deaths Mar 1923

HUGHES Robert H --age 0 ---Chorlton 8c 1087


I may be totaly wrong on this, What do you think, as i can't seem to find a connection between the Hughes / Madeley and the Yeoman family ?

Barbara x

have just looked up William Thomasas for some reason it is not giving the date on the site , and I think the death is this one


AME:
William T Yeoman
BIRTH:
abt 1892
DEATH:
Sep 1942 - Manchester, Lancashire, England

looking at that date for Robert Hughes, which is way after William John and Annie were interred, makes me wonder if it was just a matter of there being an grave that was not completely full, with no members of the family known, and a body needing a grave?


In other words, no connection between Robert Hughes and the Yeomans, other than he was buried in the grave.


That did, and does, happen!




sylvia

are these your's ? Hughes and Yeoman together
in the same grave

Southern Cemetery UChurch of England 666 1 William John Yeoman 29/05/1920
Southern Cemetery UChurch of England 666 2 Robert Henry Hughes 4/04/1923
Southern Cemetery UChurch of England 666 3 Annie Yeoman 14/12.1926
Southern Cemetery UChurch of England 666 4 William Thomas Yeomen

if you go to the site and click on details there is more information e.g age,relationship . I think it costs about £5 for credits

edit
to say I have changed the grave details for Robert Henry Hughes

could this be one of the children ?

http://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/GenSearch.aspx


12/02/1903 Child Of Alice Yeoman Philips Park Cemetery DConsecrated 849 View details

marriage of John Yeoman(s) and Ellen ??????



Marriages Mar 1852 (>99%)

>>>> Leigh Ellen Manchester 8d 452
Nuttall George Manchester 8d 452
Rayson Ann Manchester 8d 452
>>>>Yeoman John Manchester 8d 452





sylvia

William John's baptism ........ from beta.familysearch

ww.familysearch.org/#form=advanced-records


record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

name: William John Yeomans
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 14 Jun 1857
baptism/christening place: SAINT JAMES,DIDSBURY,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
birth date: 20 Apr 1857
father's name: John Yeomans
mother's name: Ellen
indexing project (batch) number: C00529-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 559167




sylvia

Hi Barbara

I will check the grave details and come back to you....continued thanks Barbara.x

Hi Richard

Have you any dates for Thomas Hughes ?

Barbara x

Hi there, yes barbara you are following the right family - Those were the names of the children i listed in my original post. My great great grandparents are william and annie yeoman (nee hayward, spelt Haywood on the marraige reg). William Yeomans father and siblings were known as 'Yeomans'. Am at a loss to try and find the reason why he dropped the 's' from his surname. If you can help me find details on his parents, grandparents etc, I would be most grateful? I have all the census info you have listed, it was just accurate details of the 4 children they lost between 1886 & 1911. Also, are there any links to a Thomas Hughes around the yeomans or haywards as he is buried in thier grave and I dont know who this is.
Thanks also Mary for helping.
Best regards
Richard Miller

Not sure Mary, we will have to see if Dickie gives us any feed back., I think William may have married Annie Haywood ??

Marriages Jun 1886 (>99%)
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>>>HEYWOOD Annie Chorlton 8c 1066
Hughes Ellen Chorlton 8c 1066
VAUGHAN Edward Thomas Chorlton 8c 1066
>>>YEOMAN William Chorlton 8c 1066

Barbara xx

My mistake Barbara,i think yours is the correct family.

1881 Tan Yard farm Chorlton
William Yomen indoor farm servant.

Maryb

Wonder if I am following the right family then !!

1911 census

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born


YEOMAN, William John Head Married 27 years M 54 1857 Labourer Manchester Corporation Burnage Lancashire VIEW
YEOMAN, William Wife Married F 47 1864 Shropshire VIEW
YEOMAN, William Thomas Son Single M 19 1892 Moter Car Driver Withington Lancashire VIEW
YEOMAN, Edith Annie Daughter Single F 21 1890 Withington Lancashire VIEW
YEOMAN, James Henry Son Single M 13 1898 School Withington Lancashire VIEW
YEOMAN, Charles Son Single M 10 1901 School Withington Lancashire VIEW
YEOMAN, Frank Son Single M 9 1902 School Withington Lancashire VIEW
YEOMAN, May Mona Daughter Single F 6 1905 School Withington Lancashire VIEW
YEOMAN, Elsie Daughter Single F 3 1908 Withington Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
23688 Reference:
RG14PN23688 RG78PN1377 RD464 SD1 ED31 SN92

Registration District:
Chorlton Sub District:
Didsbury Enumeration District:
31 Parish:
South Manchester

Address:
13 Rippingham Road Withington Manchester County:
Lancashire

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1901 census

1901 England Census 1901 England Census
Name: William J Yeoman
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie Yeoman
Gender: Male
Where born: Burnage, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Withington
Ecclesiastical parish: Withington St Paul
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:28 Hill Street

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Didsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Piece: 3670
Folio: 107
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
William J Yeoman 43 --carter for U ? Counsil
Annie Yeoman 38
Alice Yeoman 14
Edith A Yeoman 12
William S Yeoman 8
James H Yeoman 2
Charles H Yeoman 6 Months


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3670; Folio: 107; Page: 13.

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1891 census

1891 England Census 1891 England Census
Name: William T Yeoman (it says William J Yeoman on the image)
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie Yeoman
Gender: Male
Where born: Burnage, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Withington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Withington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:14 george street

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Didsbury

Household Members: Name Age
William T Yeoman 33 - William J on image) -farm Labourer
Annie Yeoman 27
Alice Yeoman 4
Edith A Yeoman 1
William Carrington 20 --lodger
George Harrell 19 --lodger


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3162; Folio 91; Page 37; GSU roll: 6098272.

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Barbara x

In 1891 they are in chesterfield Derbyshire there is mum in law Alice Redman age 63 born Cheshire.
Williams wife down as Annie!!
Annie age 4 born Oct 1886 Chesterfield.
Edith A 1 year 8 months = 1889

William Yeomans married Ann Ramsden in Sheffield O/N/D 1885.

Maryb.

EDIT This is incorrect.

what a star you are! thankyou so much xx

Forgot to say, I looked on "Lancashire online" but couldn't see anything for these children.
Barbara x