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DEAF AND DUMB GREAT GRANDPARENTS

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Joyce

Joyce Report 21 Aug 2011 14:37

Hi, can anyone put me in the right direction to finding out about mt great grandparents. All I know from my mother is that they were both Deaf and Dumb coming from Camden - St Pancras area, I do have their names but alas cant find out anymore. I am summing they may have met in a institute or something back in 1840/50 any idea as to where I could search further.
Best regards

alviegal

alviegal Report 21 Aug 2011 14:39

Would you like to put their names on here so we could take a look?

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 22 Aug 2011 14:25

Hi Joyce and welcome to the boards.

If you take a look at the Help Clinic, above left, it gives you an idea of how to go about giving information etc.

It may also be worthy putting the names you are researching into the Search Trees box above (in the dark green bar) to see if anyone else has them in their tree. If you find a connection, you can contact the tree owner.

Regards. Cx

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Aug 2011 16:59

I've sent Joyce a message asking her to come back with some names

Joyce

Joyce Report 22 Aug 2011 21:49

Oh wow I didn't think you would be hat good !!!!!!
Their names were
WALTER FINCH - Born 1852? - have found death record on Pancras, London, Volume Num 1B, Volume Page 25

as for my Grandmother I know her name was ANNIE and I think the surname was THORN

They had two children - LUCY and ROSELLA (Lucy was the name we knew her by but not sure if correct)

If only we had asked the questions when they were alive !!!

Thank you so much for your time and instructions regarding this site.
Best regards
JOYCE

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 22 Aug 2011 22:13

1891 England Census about Roselle E Finch
Name: Roselle E Finch
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Walter A Finch
Gender: Female
Where born: Mile End, London, England
Civil parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anns
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: St James Bermondsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 378
Folio: 61
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter A Finch 39
Roselle E Finch 28
View
Original
Record

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 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 22 Aug 2011 22:22

1901 England Census about Walter Finch
Name: Walter Finch Married Deaf and dumb from birth Wire worker
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Paying Guest (Guest)
Gender: Male
Where born: St Luke, London, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: London
Country: England

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 22 Aug 2011 22:23

For ref:



1901 census transcription details for: 131, Prince Of Wales Road, St Pancras

RG number: RG13 Piece: 135 Folio: 105 Page: 56


Reg. District: St Pancras Sub District: Regent's Park
Parish: St Pancras Enum. District: 24
Ecclesiastical District: Holy Trinity City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 131, Prince Of Wales Road, St Pancras
County: London

FINCH, Annie Head Married F 33 1868 Dressmaker
Deaf And Dumb Yorkham
Devonshire
FINCH, Roseine Daughter F 5 1896
St Pancras
London
FINCH, Lucy Daughter F 2 1899
St Pancras
London





1901 census transcription details for: Rowton House, Kings Cross Road
RG number: RG13 Piece: 142 Folio: 107 Page: 14


Reg. District: St Pancras Sub District: Gray's Inn Lane
Parish: St Pancras Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: St Bartholomews City/Municipal Borough:
Address: St Pancras
County: London

FINCH, Walker (sic) Paying Guests Married M 39 1862 Wire Worker
Deaf And Dumb From Birth St Lukes
London


Maureen

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Aug 2011 22:31

Deaths Jun 1910 (>99%)
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Finch Walter 58 Pancras 1b 25

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 22 Aug 2011 22:34

1911 census

FINCH, Annie Head Married
16 years F 42 1869 Dressmaker Exeter Devon VIEW
FINCH, Rose Daughter Single F 15 1896 Cap Maker Middlesex London VIEW
FINCH, Lily Daughter Single F 12 1899 School Middlesex London VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
679 Reference:
RG14PN679 RG78PN23 RD9 SD1 ED28 SN427

Registration District:
St Pancras Sub District:
West St Pancras Enumeration District:
28 Parish:
St Pancras

Address:
8 Truro Street N W

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Aug 2011 22:35

This looks like Roselle birth
Name: FINCH, Roselle Annie
Registration District: Pancras
County: London
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 1B
Page No: 123



Name: FINCH, Lucy
Registration District: Help Pancras
County: London
Year of Registration: 1898
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: Help 1B
Page No: Help 148





Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Aug 2011 22:48

same 1891 as Lindsey posted but with details of waltethat must be them

FINCH, Walter A Head Married M 29 1862 Breve Maker & Wire Worker
Deaf And Dumb From Childhood St John Horsleydown >>>>>>occ and condition
FINCH, Roselle E Wife Married F 28 1863
Mile End
London VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
378 Folio:
61 Page:
3

Registration District:
St Olave Southwark Sub District:
St James Bermondsey Enumeration District:
23 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Annes

Civil Parish:
Bermondsey Municipal Borough:
Bermondsey Address:
55, Upper Grange Road, Bermondsey County:
London


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Aug 2011 22:58

Something doesnt quite fit on who his wife was Cant see any marrriage that fits tem.

You may need to get one of the birth certs to see what mums name was

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 22 Aug 2011 23:01

?????
1881 census transcription details for: 17, Three Oak Lane, Horsleydown

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 557 Folio: 18 Page: 30


Reg. District: St Olave Southwark Sub District: St John Horsleydown
Parish: Horsleydown Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 17, Three Oak Lane, Horsleydown
County: Surrey

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
FINCH, Abraham Head Married M 56 1825 Milk Shop Keeper
Haughley
Suffolk
FINCH, Susan Wife Married F 56 1825
Wetherden
Suffolk
FINCH, Harry Son Single M 20 1861 Lab
Horselydown
Surrey
FINCH, Walter Son Single M 17 1864 Wire Worker
Deaf And Dumb Horselydown
Surrey

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Walter A Finch
Name: Walter A Finch Occ:Wire worker
Age: Full Age

Spouse Name: Rosella Kemp
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1884
Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Abraham Finch Occ:Dairyman
Spouse Father Name: George Alfred Kemp Occ:Poulterer

Maureen

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Aug 2011 23:02



Name: Walter A Finch occ Wire Worker !!!!
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Spouse Name: Rosella Kemp
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1884
Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Abraham Finch
Spouse Father Name: George Alfred Kemp


Looks like them !!

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 22 Aug 2011 23:07

I just can't figure out why she says she was born in Devon!!!

1881 England Census about Roselle Kemp
Name: Roselle Kemp
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: George A. Kemp
Mother's name: Elizh. Kemp
Gender: Female
Where born: Mile End, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Hamlet
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 27 Wellesley St
Occupation: Dressmaker
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 477
Folio: 73
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
George A. Kemp 41
Elizh. Kemp 40
Roselle Kemp 18
Elizh. Kemp 13
Wm. Kemp 9
Minnie Kemp 6
Chas. Kemp 4
Martha Kemp 2
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 477; Folio: 73; Page: 21; GSU roll: 1341105.

Maureen

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Aug 2011 23:09

1881 census

Name: Roselle Kemp
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: George A. Kemp
Mother's name: Elizh. Kemp
Gender: Female
Where born: Mile End, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Hamlet
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 27 Wellesley St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Dressmaker

Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 477
Folio: 73
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
George A. Kemp 41
Elizh. Kemp 40
Roselle Kemp 18
Elizh. Kemp 13
Wm. Kemp 9
Minnie Kemp 6
Chas. Kemp 4
Martha Kemp 2

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 477; Folio: 73; Page: 21; GSU roll: 1341105.

No ref to her being deaf and dumb

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 22 Aug 2011 23:10

Oh....
Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%)
Finch Roselle Elizabeth 29 St. Olave 1d 200

Maureen

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Aug 2011 23:15

Name: Roselle Elizabeth Kemp
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1862
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Inferred County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 186

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Aug 2011 23:23

Ahh so he re married and named one daughter after his first wife.