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Joyce
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21 Aug 2011 14:37 |
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Hi, can anyone put me in the right direction to finding out about mt great grandparents. All I know from my mother is that they were both Deaf and Dumb coming from Camden - St Pancras area, I do have their names but alas cant find out anymore. I am summing they may have met in a institute or something back in 1840/50 any idea as to where I could search further. Best regards
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alviegal
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21 Aug 2011 14:39 |
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Would you like to put their names on here so we could take a look?
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Cynthia
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22 Aug 2011 14:25 |
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Hi Joyce and welcome to the boards.
If you take a look at the Help Clinic, above left, it gives you an idea of how to go about giving information etc.
It may also be worthy putting the names you are researching into the Search Trees box above (in the dark green bar) to see if anyone else has them in their tree. If you find a connection, you can contact the tree owner.
Regards. Cx
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22 Aug 2011 16:59 |
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I've sent Joyce a message asking her to come back with some names
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Joyce
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22 Aug 2011 21:49 |
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Oh wow I didn't think you would be hat good !!!!!! Their names were WALTER FINCH - Born 1852? - have found death record on Pancras, London, Volume Num 1B, Volume Page 25
as for my Grandmother I know her name was ANNIE and I think the surname was THORN
They had two children - LUCY and ROSELLA (Lucy was the name we knew her by but not sure if correct)
If only we had asked the questions when they were alive !!!
Thank you so much for your time and instructions regarding this site. Best regards JOYCE
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Lindsey*
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22 Aug 2011 22:13 |
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1891 England Census about Roselle E Finch Name: Roselle E Finch Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Walter A Finch Gender: Female Where born: Mile End, London, England Civil parish: Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish: St Anns County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: St James Bermondsey ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 378 Folio: 61 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Walter A Finch 39 Roselle E Finch 28 View Original Record
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Lindsey*
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22 Aug 2011 22:22 |
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1901 England Census about Walter Finch Name: Walter Finch Married Deaf and dumb from birth Wire worker Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Paying Guest (Guest) Gender: Male Where born: St Luke, London, England Civil parish: St Pancras Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew County/Island: London Country: England
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MaureeninNY
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22 Aug 2011 22:23 |
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For ref:
1901 census transcription details for: 131, Prince Of Wales Road, St Pancras
RG number: RG13 Piece: 135 Folio: 105 Page: 56
Reg. District: St Pancras Sub District: Regent's Park Parish: St Pancras Enum. District: 24 Ecclesiastical District: Holy Trinity City/Municipal Borough: Address: 131, Prince Of Wales Road, St Pancras County: London
FINCH, Annie Head Married F 33 1868 Dressmaker Deaf And Dumb Yorkham Devonshire FINCH, Roseine Daughter F 5 1896 St Pancras London FINCH, Lucy Daughter F 2 1899 St Pancras London
1901 census transcription details for: Rowton House, Kings Cross Road RG number: RG13 Piece: 142 Folio: 107 Page: 14
Reg. District: St Pancras Sub District: Gray's Inn Lane Parish: St Pancras Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: St Bartholomews City/Municipal Borough: Address: St Pancras County: London
FINCH, Walker (sic) Paying Guests Married M 39 1862 Wire Worker Deaf And Dumb From Birth St Lukes London
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GlitterBaby
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22 Aug 2011 22:31 |
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Deaths Jun 1910 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finch Walter 58 Pancras 1b 25
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Lindsey*
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22 Aug 2011 22:34 |
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1911 census
FINCH, Annie Head Married 16 years F 42 1869 Dressmaker Exeter Devon VIEW FINCH, Rose Daughter Single F 15 1896 Cap Maker Middlesex London VIEW FINCH, Lily Daughter Single F 12 1899 School Middlesex London VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 679 Reference: RG14PN679 RG78PN23 RD9 SD1 ED28 SN427 Registration District: St Pancras Sub District: West St Pancras Enumeration District: 28 Parish: St Pancras Address: 8 Truro Street N W
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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22 Aug 2011 22:35 |
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This looks like Roselle birth Name: FINCH, Roselle Annie Registration District: Pancras County: London Year of Registration: 1896 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume No: 1B Page No: 123
Name: FINCH, Lucy Registration District: Help Pancras County: London Year of Registration: 1898 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume No: Help 1B Page No: Help 148
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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22 Aug 2011 22:48 |
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same 1891 as Lindsey posted but with details of waltethat must be them
FINCH, Walter A Head Married M 29 1862 Breve Maker & Wire Worker Deaf And Dumb From Childhood St John Horsleydown >>>>>>occ and condition FINCH, Roselle E Wife Married F 28 1863 Mile End London VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG12 Piece: 378 Folio: 61 Page: 3 Registration District: St Olave Southwark Sub District: St James Bermondsey Enumeration District: 23 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Annes Civil Parish: Bermondsey Municipal Borough: Bermondsey Address: 55, Upper Grange Road, Bermondsey County: London
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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22 Aug 2011 22:58 |
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Something doesnt quite fit on who his wife was Cant see any marrriage that fits tem.
You may need to get one of the birth certs to see what mums name was
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MaureeninNY
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22 Aug 2011 23:01 |
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????? 1881 census transcription details for: 17, Three Oak Lane, Horsleydown
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 557 Folio: 18 Page: 30
Reg. District: St Olave Southwark Sub District: St John Horsleydown Parish: Horsleydown Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: 17, Three Oak Lane, Horsleydown County: Surrey
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born FINCH, Abraham Head Married M 56 1825 Milk Shop Keeper Haughley Suffolk FINCH, Susan Wife Married F 56 1825 Wetherden Suffolk FINCH, Harry Son Single M 20 1861 Lab Horselydown Surrey FINCH, Walter Son Single M 17 1864 Wire Worker Deaf And Dumb Horselydown Surrey
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Walter A Finch Name: Walter A Finch Occ:Wire worker Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Rosella Kemp Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1884 Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green County: Middlesex Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Abraham Finch Occ:Dairyman Spouse Father Name: George Alfred Kemp Occ:Poulterer
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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22 Aug 2011 23:02 |
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Name: Walter A Finch occ Wire Worker !!!! Age: Full Age Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Spouse Name: Rosella Kemp Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1884 Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green County: Middlesex Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Abraham Finch Spouse Father Name: George Alfred Kemp
Looks like them !!
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MaureeninNY
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22 Aug 2011 23:07 |
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I just can't figure out why she says she was born in Devon!!!
1881 England Census about Roselle Kemp Name: Roselle Kemp Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Daughter Father's name: George A. Kemp Mother's name: Elizh. Kemp Gender: Female Where born: Mile End, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Hamlet County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 27 Wellesley St Occupation: Dressmaker Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 477 Folio: 73 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age George A. Kemp 41 Elizh. Kemp 40 Roselle Kemp 18 Elizh. Kemp 13 Wm. Kemp 9 Minnie Kemp 6 Chas. Kemp 4 Martha Kemp 2 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 477; Folio: 73; Page: 21; GSU roll: 1341105.
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22 Aug 2011 23:09 |
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1881 census
Name: Roselle Kemp Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Daughter Father's name: George A. Kemp Mother's name: Elizh. Kemp Gender: Female Where born: Mile End, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Hamlet County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 27 Wellesley St Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Dressmaker Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 477 Folio: 73 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age George A. Kemp 41 Elizh. Kemp 40 Roselle Kemp 18 Elizh. Kemp 13 Wm. Kemp 9 Minnie Kemp 6 Chas. Kemp 4 Martha Kemp 2
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 477; Folio: 73; Page: 21; GSU roll: 1341105.
No ref to her being deaf and dumb
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MaureeninNY
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22 Aug 2011 23:10 |
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Oh.... Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%) Finch Roselle Elizabeth 29 St. Olave 1d 200
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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22 Aug 2011 23:15 |
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Name: Roselle Elizabeth Kemp Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1862 Registration district: Mile End Old Town Inferred County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 186
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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22 Aug 2011 23:23 |
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Ahh so he re married and named one daughter after his first wife.
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