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marriage for JOHN GOUGH??

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Aug 2011 11:35

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Eira Oneita Speller
Name: Eira Oneita Speller
Birth Date: 29 Dec 1913
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1975
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Inferred County: Mid-Glamorgan
Volume: 27
Page: 0057

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 19 Aug 2011 11:14

Charles and Elizabeth in the 1911 census:-

SPELLER, Charles Head Married
14 years M 34 1877 Field Ranging Read Making Brentford Middlesex
SPELLER, Elizabeth Charlotte Wife F 45 1866 Oldford
SPELLER, Sidney Christopher Son M 12 1899 School Brentford Middx
SPELLER, William James Son M 9 1902 School N Kensington W
SPELLER, Dorothy Daughter F 7 1904 School North Kensington W
SPELLER, Lilian Daughter F 5 1906 School North Kensington W
SPELLER, Charles Stevens Son M 3 1908 2 Home North Kensington W
SPELLER, Charlotte Mary Daughter F 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 North Kensington W

9 children born to the marriage. 6 living and 3 have died up to 1911.

Address:
21 Bevington Road N Kensington

Reference:
RG14PN184 RG78PN6 RD2 SD3 ED20 SN68

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 19 Aug 2011 11:12

Possible marriage for James's parents:-

Name: SPELLER, Charles
Registration District: Kensington
County: London
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 1A
Page No: 357

On the same page is Elizabeth Charlotte Darton.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 19 Aug 2011 11:07

Possible birth for Eira O. Gough's husband (their marriage reference has him with middle initial "F"):-

Name: SPELLER, James F
Registration District: Kensington
County: London
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Darton
Volume No: 1A
Page No: 267

Kath. x

kimberly

kimberly Report 19 Aug 2011 10:55

Yes she was prickly holly, here parents were john gough and caroline burgoyne.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Aug 2011 10:45

So it would seem then.........that Onita was actually born Eira O Gough.

kimberly

kimberly Report 19 Aug 2011 10:20

I have most info on onita, she married james frederick speller,they only had my dad and uncle colin, james had 3 sisters and 6 brothers who I want to look up. Ive just been on that website and its baffling me, I want to find out if any of them were married and had children but theres so many to go through, I think ill leave it there now as its hard work lol. Thanks for your help.

Flick

Flick Report 19 Aug 2011 10:02

Marriages Dec 1942 (>99%)
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Gough Eira O Speller Builth 11b 129

Male's details not transcribed

kimberly

kimberly Report 19 Aug 2011 10:02

Thank you flick, I also find that site confusing but I'l try.

Flick

Flick Report 19 Aug 2011 09:59

To find out about children...look on freebmd for their marriages, then use the same site to look for possible births

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

kimberly

kimberly Report 19 Aug 2011 09:45

I cant believe this, it goes on forever.....do you know how I can find out about relatives who maybe still living? Im looking more for onitas husbands side, she married james speller, I have found out his brothers names but want to know if they had children and so on. They were from Kensignton as far as I know.

kimberly

kimberly Report 19 Aug 2011 09:41

Yes pricklyholly, thats her, minnie is her sister, there was also another sister called celia and a brother george....this is confusing coz some of them have got the same name....I dont know who's who.........so is this right? my great nan CAROLINE BURGOYNE, her parents names were also caroline and george? and her siblings were percy, george, thomas.rhoda, joseph, william and edward?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Aug 2011 09:09

??

Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
GOUGH Eira O Burgoyne Builth 11b 108

Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
Gough Evelyn R Burgoyne Builth 11b 103

Births Dec 1917 (>99%)
Gough Minnie C J Burgoyne Builth 11b 103

Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
Gough George D Burgoyne Builth 11b 104

The district Builth spans the boundaries of the counties of Breconshire, Powys and Radnorshire.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Aug 2011 08:58

When and where was Onita born?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Aug 2011 08:54

The 1891 census that Andrew has posted is Caroline with her parents and siblings before she married.




Caroline is transcribed as Celia in 1901..........

1901 England Census
about Rhoda Burgoyne
Name: Rhoda Burgoyne
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: George Burgoyne
Mother's name: Caroline Burgoyne
Gender: Female
Where born: Hopton Castle, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Clungunford
Ecclesiastical parish: Clungunford St Cuthbert
Town: Broadward
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Clun
Sub-registration district: Clun
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 50
Piece: 2508
Folio: 95
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
George Burgoyne 40
Caroline Burgoyne 35
Percy Burgoyne 17
Celia Burgoyne 15
George Burgoyne 14
Thomas Burgoyne 12
Rhoda Burgoyne 10
Joseph Burgoyne 8
William Burgoyne 6
Edward Burgoyne 4

Caroline (Celia) is not with her parents in 1911.....

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BURGOYNE, Rhoda May
Address: Chapel House Twitchen Aston on Clun Shropshire


BURGOYNE, George Head Married M 50 1861 Farm Labourer Salop Clun Parish VIEW
BURGOYNE, Caroline Wife Married
27 years F 44 1867 Salop Clun Parish VIEW
BURGOYNE, Rhoda May Daughter Single F 20 1891 Salop Hopton Castle Parish VIEW
BURGOYNE, William Son Single M 16 1895 Gardner Domestic Salop Hopton Castle Parish VIEW
BURGOYNE, Edward Godfrey Son Single M 14 1897 Railway Porter Salop Hopton Castle Parish VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
15903 Reference:
RG14PN15903 RG78PN976 RD343 SD1 ED7 SN45

Registration District:
Clun Sub District:
Clun Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Clunbury

Address:
Chapel House Twitchen Aston on Clun Shropshire County:
Shropshire
(9 children born, 8 living, 1 had died)



Marriages Mar 1884 (>99%)
BURGOYNE George Ludlow 6a 837
RICHARDS Caroline Ludlow 6a 837

kimberly

kimberly Report 19 Aug 2011 08:30

Andy, im not sure about that last post, I thought they only had four children, one of which was my nan onita, I dont know who those other people are? are they their children do you know?

kimberly

kimberly Report 19 Aug 2011 08:27

Thank you all for your quick replies, think thats them, thank you. :-)

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 19 Aug 2011 08:25

Are you purchasing certificates to do your research ?

Andrew

Andrew Report 19 Aug 2011 08:23

Birth for Caroline

Births Jun 1885 (>99%)
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Burgoyne Caroline Celia Clun 6a 576


and 1891 census with parents and siblings

1891 England Census
about Caroline C Burgoyne Name: Caroline C Burgoyne
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: George Burgoyne
Mother's name: Caroline Burgoyne
Gender: Female
Where born: Hopton Castle, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Hopton Castle
Ecclesiastical parish: Hopton Castle
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Clun
Sub-registration district: Clun
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2085
Folio: 83
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
George Burgoyne 36 Ag Lab born Clun
Caroline Burgoyne 25
Percy J Burgoyne 7
Caroline C Burgoyne 5
George Burgoyne 4
Thomas Burgoyne 2
Rhoda M Burgoyne 1/12






Andy

Robin7

Robin7 Report 19 Aug 2011 08:22

Caroline C Burgoyne was this John's wifes full name