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Hi,
Im trying to locate my 3x great grandmother in the 1851 and 1861 census. She was born in 1847 in St Agnes, Cornwall and her father was Reuben Thomas but i have no idea when he was born or what his mother was called. Any help will be grateful.

Hi Martin what was g g g grans name ?.

LOL sorry i should of looked at the title :-D

Is that your tree on Ancestry Martin ?.

Yeah it is my tree on ancestry, the 1851 and 1861 census for her is the only ones that is eluding me

Yes im having trouble finding them

Im unable to locate them maybe their was a spelling error on the census try messing with the names alittle.

Maybe someone with find my past could do a search for you see what their search turns up.

1861 England Census
about Elizabeth Thomas
Name: Elizabeth Thomas
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Susannah Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Saint Agnes, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: St Agnes
Ecclesiastical parish: Mount Hawke
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Truro
Sub-registration district: St Agnes
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 34
Piece: 1554
Folio: 55
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Susannah Thomas 42
Julia Thomas 22
Richard Thomas 21
Phillip Thomas 19
Mary Thomas 16
Elizabeth Thomas 14
Mary Hawke 68

This is the same family on the 1851 so not yours ?

1851 England Census
about Elizabeth Thomas
Name: Elizabeth Thomas
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Charles Thomas
Mother's name: Susanna Thomas
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: St Agnes, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: St Agnes
Ecclesiastical parish: Mount Hawke
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Truro
Sub-registration district: Probus
ED, institution, or vessel: 2f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 32
Piece: 1909
Folio: 532
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Thomas 35
Susanna Thomas 31
Julia Thomas 12
Richard Thomas 10
Philip Thomas 9
Mary Thomas 6
Elizabeth Thomas 4

the only one I can find is this one -



Rubin Thomas
England Marriages, 1538–1973

marriage: 20 Jan 1833 —Saint Agnes Near Truro, Cornwall, England
spouse: Mary Reed

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Rubin Thomas
bride's name: Mary Reed
marriage date: 20 Jan 1833
marriage place: Saint Agnes Near Truro,Cornwall,England
indexing project (batch) number: M05306-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 916882


1841

THOMAS, Reuben M 40 1801 Cornwall VIEW (Miner)
THOMAS, Mary F 35 1806 Cornwall VIEW
THOMAS, Elizabeth F 10 1831 Cornwall VIEW
THOMAS, Eliza F 5 1836 Cornwall VIEW
THOMAS, Lydia F 3 1838 Cornwall VIEW
THOMAS, Sophia F 1 (12 months) 1840 Cornwall VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
149 Book/Folio:
1/13 Page:
18

Registration District:
Truro Sub District:
St Agnes Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St Agnes Municipal Borough:
Address:
Beacon, St Agnes County:
Cornwall



not sure why all the different surnames !! but think it's the same family

1851

THOMAS, Mary Head Widow F 39 1812 House Keeper
St Agnes
Cornwall VIEW
THOMAS, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 15 1836 Work At The Mine
St Agnes
Cornwall VIEW
THOMAS, Sophia Daughter F 9 1842 Errand Girl
St Agnes
Cornwall VIEW
THOMAS, William Son M 7 1844 At Home
St Agnes
Cornwall VIEW
COCK, Elizabeth Daughter F 5 1846 At Home
St Agnes
Cornwall VIEW
BEST, John Son M 2 1849
St Agnes
Cornwall VIEW
REED, Lidia Daughter F 0 (3 MOS) 1851
St Agnes
Cornwall VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1909 Folio:
653 Page:
4

Registration District:
Truro Sub District:
Saint Agnes Enumeration District:
2P Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St Agnes Municipal Borough:
Address:
Bolster, St Agnes County:
Cornwall



could Elizabeth (Eliza) have deducted 10 years from her birth year ?

I'm not seeing anything else (or maybe she was the Elizabeth Cock on the 1851 census)



possible death of Reuben -


Deaths Mar 1844 (>99%)
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THOMAS Reuben Truro 9 214

I dont think it is as elizabeths marriage cert says her father is Reuben Thomas

On her marriage cert what occupation have they listed for Reuben please?

Births Dec 1850 (>99%)
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Thomas Lydia Truro 9 286



(possibly the Lydia Reed on the 1851 census)

Ive gotta ask my cousin to check for me as she currently has the certificate at the mo

Just that it could make a difference if he was anything but a Miner.

Just had a look on your Ancestry tree and think I can just see M for Miner. I did notice that she was 19 when she married Joseph which would make her year of birth about 1845.

??

1861

STRIBLEY, George Head Married M 43 1818 Grocers Butcher Master
St Columb
Cornwall VIEW
STRIBLEY, Ann D Wife Married F 41 1820
St Agnes
Cornwall VIEW
STRIBLEY, Elizabeth Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar
St Agnes
Cornwall VIEW
STRIBLEY, Kate M Daughter F 7 1854 Scholar
St Agnes
Cornwall VIEW
STRIBLEY, George H Son M 1 1860
St Agnes
Cornwall VIEW
STRIBLEY, Nany S Daughter F 1 1860
St Agnes
Cornwall VIEW
COFF, William Servant Unmarried M 16 1845 Butchers Servant
Kenwyn
Cornwall VIEW
>>>>>THOMAS, Elizabeth Servant Unmarried F 15 1846 House Servant
St Agnes
Cornwall VIEW

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
1555 Folio:
95 Page:
25

Registration District:
Truro Sub District:
3 St Agnes Enumeration District:
15 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St Agnes Municipal Borough:
Address:
Vicarage, Goonvrea, St Agnes County:
Cornwall

I wonder if there are census missing for 1861 as I can't find Joseph Butler in 1861 either. I see you have'nt got the 1861 for Joseph on your tree.

Well spotted Choccy. Now can you find Joseph Butler on the 1861 he is not with his family.

1861 England Census
about Stephen Buttler
Name: Stephen Buttler
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizth Buttler
Gender: Male
Where born: Redruth, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Illogan
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Redruth
Sub-registration district: Illogan
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 130
Piece: 1581
Folio: 27
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Stephen Buttler 60
Elizth Buttler 59
Jane Buttler 20
James Buttler 16

Hi all,
Im thinking that there are census records missing as cant find him neither