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Ellen
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31 Jul 2011 12:08 |
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Hi I'm looking for info on Henry Toy born Cornwall abt 1864 and died Glebe Australia 1924. His parents are listed as Henry and Mary Ann. I can find a baptism in Cornwall dated 1962 for a William Henry, parents Henry and Mary Ann. I have also found an unassisted passage listing for a Mrs Toy and child William arriving on the Telegraph in 1864. I have also found a NSW BDM record for a Mary A Toy died in Sydney in 1883 aged 50 no parents listed. Henry married Flora Penberthy in Sydney in 1997.
My main question is - is the baptism record the correct one? If not can someone sterr me in the right direction to find Henry's parents and his immigration records?
Thanks Ellen
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PollyPoppet
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31 Jul 2011 12:15 |
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1871 census Address Pennance Parish Budock District Falmouth, Falmouth Administrative County Cornwall
Householder 1 Name Henry Toy Age 37 Estimated Year of Birth 1834 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Birth Place Cornwall Birth County Cornwall
Householder 2 Name Mary Toy Age 32 Estimated Year of Birth 1839 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Cornwall Birth County Cornwall
Householder 3 Name Mary Toy Age 10 Estimated Year of Birth 1861 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Cornwall Birth County Cornwall
Householder 4 Name Lavinia Toy Age 8 Estimated Year of Birth 1863 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Cornwall Birth County Cornwall
Householder 5 Name Henry Toy Age 6 Estimated Year of Birth 1865 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Cornwall Birth County Cornwall
Householder 6 Name Louisa Toy Age 3 Estimated Year of Birth 1868 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Cornwall Birth County Cornwall
Householder 7 Name Elizabeth Toy Age 0 Estimated Year of Birth 1871 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Cornwall Birth County Cornwall
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31 Jul 2011 12:16 |
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Henry Toy England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1865 —Wendron, Cornwall, England residence: 1881 —Wendron, Cornwall, England census: 1881 —Wendron, Cornwall, England parents: Joseph Toy, Elizabeth Toy record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: Henry Toy age: 16 gender: Male birth year: 1865 birthplace: Wendron, Cornwall, England relationship to head of household: Son marital condition: Single profession/occupation: Tin Miner (Stamps) address: Carthew census place: Wendron, Cornwall, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341557 the national archives reference: RG11 piece/folio: 2322 / 5 page number: 4
Henry Toy England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1863 —Helston, Cornwall, England residence: 1881 —Helston, Cornwall, England census: 1881 —Helston, Cornwall, England record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: Henry Toy age: 18 gender: Male birth year: 1863 birthplace: Helston, Cornwall, England relationship to head of household: Stepson marital condition: Single profession/occupation: Bankers Clerk address: Lower Green census place: Helston, Cornwall, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341558 the national archives reference: RG11 piece/folio: 2323 / 38 page number: 19
Henry Toy England and Wales Census, 1901 birth: 1863 —Helston, Cornwall residence: 31 Mar 1901 —Helston, Cornwall, England census: 31 Mar 1901 —Helston, Cornwall, England record title: England and Wales Census, 1901 name: Henry Toy event: Census event date: 31 Mar 1901 gender: Male age: 38 relationship to head of household: Head birthplace: Helston, Cornwall record type: Household registration district: Helston sub-district: Helston ecclesiastical parish: St Michaels And All Saints Chapel civil parish: Helston county:
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PollyPoppet
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31 Jul 2011 12:16 |
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possible birth for census above
Name Henry Toy Year of Registration 1865 Quarter of Registration Apr-May-Jun Registration District Falmouth Registration County Cornwall Mother's maiden name Volume Number 5C Volume Page 219
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31 Jul 2011 12:18 |
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Joseph TOY Head M Male 54 Wendron, Cornwall, England Tin Miner Elizabeth TOY Wife M Female 42 Wendron, Cornwall, England Henry TOY Son Male 16 Wendron, Cornwall, England Tin Miner (Stamps) Harriet TOY Daur Female 14 Wendron, Cornwall, England Mine Girl
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Carthew Census Place Wendron, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341557 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2322 / 5 Page Number 4
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AnnCardiff
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31 Jul 2011 12:19 |
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Henry TOY Head M Male 47 Wendron, Cornwall, England Farmer Elizabeth TOY Wife M Female 45 Wendron, Cornwall, England Henry TOY Son U Male 20 Wendron, Cornwall, England Tin Miner Joseph TOY Son U Male 19 Wendron, Cornwall, England Engine Driver Mary A. TOY Daur Female 14 Wendron, Cornwall, England John TOY Son Male 11 Wendron, Cornwall, England Scholar Caroline J. TOY Daur Female 10 Wendron, Cornwall, England Scholar Susan TOY Daur Female 8 Wendron, Cornwall, England Scholar
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Carthvean Census Place Wendron, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341557 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2321 / 75 Page Number 8
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AnnCardiff
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31 Jul 2011 12:22 |
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Henry Toy England Marriages, 1538–1973 marriage: 10 Sep 1859 —Budock, Cornwall, England parents: William Toy spouse: Mary Jordan record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973 groom's name: Henry Toy bride's name: Mary Jordan marriage date: 10 Sep 1859 marriage place: Budock, Cornwall, England groom's father's name: William Toy bride's father's name: George Jordan indexing project (batch) number: I04591-4 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1545379
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AnnCardiff
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31 Jul 2011 12:24 |
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Lillie Toy England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1871 —Budock, Cornwall, England residence: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England census: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England parents: Henry Toy, Mary Toy record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: Lillie Toy age: 10 gender: Female birth year: 1871 birthplace: Budock, Cornwall, England relationship to head of household: Daughter marital condition: Single profession/occupation: Scholar address: Rosemerryn Cottage census place: Budock, Cornwall, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341556 the national archives reference: RG11 piece/folio: 2317 / 125 page number:
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AnnCardiff
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31 Jul 2011 12:26 |
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Lousia Toy England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1868 —Budock, Cornwall, England residence: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England census: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England parents: Henry Toy, Mary Toy record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: Lousia Toy age: 13 gender: Female birth year: 1868 birthplace: Budock, Cornwall, England relationship to head of household: Daughter marital condition: Single profession/occupation: Scholar address: Rosemerryn Cottage census place: Budock, Cornwall, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341556 the national archives reference: RG11 piece/folio: 2317 / 125
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AnnCardiff
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31 Jul 2011 12:28 |
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Elizabeth Toy England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 residence: Cornwall, England parents: Henry Toy, Mary record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Elizabeth Toy gender: Female baptism/christening date: 18 Sep 1870 baptism/christening place: BUDOCK,CORNWALL,ENGLAND father's name: Henry Toy mother's name: Mary indexing project (batch) number: D19800-4 system origin: England-ODM source film number: unknown
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AnnCardiff
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31 Jul 2011 12:29 |
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James Toy England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1873 —Budock, Cornwall, England residence: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England census: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England parents: Henry Toy, Mary Toy record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: James Toy age: 8 gender: Male birth year: 1873 birthplace: Budock, Cornwall, England relationship to head of household: Son marital condition: Single profession/occupation: Scholar address: Rosemerryn Cottage census place: Budock, Cornwall, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341556 the national archives reference: RG11 piece/folio: 2317 / 125 page number: 3
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AnnCardiff
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31 Jul 2011 12:30 |
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Michael Toy England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1875 —Budock, Cornwall, England residence: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England census: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England parents: Henry Toy, Mary Toy record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: Michael Toy age: 6 gender: Male birth year: 1875 birthplace: Budock, Cornwall, England relationship to head of household: Son marital condition: Single profession/occupation: Scholar address: Rosemerryn Cottage census place: Budock, Cornwall, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341556 the national archives reference: RG11 piece/folio: 2317 / 125 page number: 3
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AnnCardiff
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31 Jul 2011 12:30 |
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Charles Toy England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1878 —Budock, Cornwall, England residence: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England census: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England parents: Henry Toy, Mary Toy record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: Charles Toy age: 3 gender: Male birth year: 1878 birthplace: Budock, Cornwall, England relationship to head of household: Son marital condition: Single profession/occupation: Scholar address: Rosemerryn Cottage census place: Budock, Cornwall, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341556 the national archives reference: RG11 piece/folio: 2317 / 125 page number: 3
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31 Jul 2011 12:33 |
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Harry Toy England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1865 —Budock, Cornwall, England residence: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England census: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: Harry Toy age: 16 gender: Male birth year: 1865 birthplace: Budock, Cornwall, England relationship to head of household: Servant marital condition: Single profession/occupation: Farm Servant (Indoor) address: Rosemerryn House census place: Budock, Cornwall, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341556 the national archives reference: RG11 piece/folio: 2317 / 125 page number: 3
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AnnCardiff
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31 Jul 2011 12:35 |
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I should have found this one first!!!
1881
Henry TOY Head M Male 47 Budock, Cornwall, England Agricultural Labourer Mary TOY Wife M Female 43 Budock, Cornwall, England Mary A. TOY Daur U Female 20 Budock, Cornwall, England Lousia TOY Daur U Female 13 Budock, Cornwall, England Scholar Lillie TOY Daur U Female 10 Budock, Cornwall, England Scholar James TOY Son Male 8 Budock, Cornwall, England Scholar Michael TOY Son Male 6 Budock, Cornwall, England Scholar Charles TOY Son Male 3 Budock, Cornwall, England Scholar Emily TOY Daur Female 2 Budock, Cornwall, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Rosemerryn Cottage Census Place Budock, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341556 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2317 / 125 Page Number 3
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Ellen
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31 Jul 2011 13:16 |
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Wow - thanks for all your replies - I did make a silly typo in my original email which I should have picked up - Henry married Flora in Aust in 1887 - not 1997 as per my original post.
I did originally look at Henry Toy and Mary Jordan as the parents of Henry - the Toys of Rosemerryn House however all that lot are linked in big time to UK royalty and I thought I must have got it wrong.
So do you think Henry and Mary would be the best bet for my Henry's parents- I will have to dust off my tiara in that case.
cheers Ellen
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AnnCardiff
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31 Jul 2011 13:28 |
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Well m'lady, I have no idea, but why should you not be related t royalty!!!
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AnnCardiff
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31 Jul 2011 14:38 |
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Ould Family of Cornwall 3 Mar 2005 ... I have used Church Registers of the two parishes and of Budock; .... was baptized at Budock in 1789. Thomas Old was baptized at Constantine in 1800. ... The eldest, another Richard, married Ann Toy from Trebah (also in ...
homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ouldfam/ould_fam.html - Similar
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Cherilyn
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31 Jul 2011 16:30 |
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FYI, from NLA Trove newspaper site (why does it only mention the bride's father!)
The Sydney Morning Herald, Saturday 14 January 1888 TOY--PENBERTHY.-December 21, at St. James, Sydney, by the Rev. Latimer Jackson, M.A., Henry Toy, of Sydney, to Flora Eveline Penberthy, only daughter of John Penberthy, of Glebe Point-road, Glebe.
Just found his funeral notices (Sat 16th Feb 1924, p.15), and apart from Flora and the children (Evelyn, Elsie & Linda), there is a notice from Henry's brother Edwin TOY!
His death: 13426/1941 TOY EDWIN [father] HENRY [mother] MARY MARRICKVILLE
The Sydney Morning Herald, Tuesday 22 April 1941 TOY. —April 18, 1941, at Home of Peace, Edwin Toy, Cowper Street, Glebe. Interred Rookwood Cemetery, April 19.
Henry & Flora also lived in Cowper St, Glebe.
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Cherilyn
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31 Jul 2011 16:39 |
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This is interesting - this birth comes up in a search at NSW bdm site for 1869, but the reg date comes up 2005!
181570/2005 TOY EDWIN [father] HENRY [mother] MARY
He is buried at Rookwood Anglican G465. In the same plot is Mary A TOY, buried 27/4/1883! I assume you are in NSW, if so you can phone the cemetery to see if they have additional info - 02 9746 2177.
Henry TOY is also buried at same cemetery, Anglican 7/1078, with Flora (buried 13/4/1948).
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