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Henry Toy c1864- 1924

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Ellen

Ellen Report 31 Jul 2011 12:08

Hi I'm looking for info on Henry Toy born Cornwall abt 1864 and died Glebe Australia 1924. His parents are listed as Henry and Mary Ann. I can find a baptism in Cornwall dated 1962 for a William Henry, parents Henry and Mary Ann. I have also found an unassisted passage listing for a Mrs Toy and child William arriving on the Telegraph in 1864. I have also found a NSW BDM record for a Mary A Toy died in Sydney in 1883 aged 50 no parents listed. Henry married Flora Penberthy in Sydney in 1997.

My main question is - is the baptism record the correct one? If not can someone sterr me in the right direction to find Henry's parents and his immigration records?

Thanks
Ellen

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 31 Jul 2011 12:15

possible

1871 census
Address Pennance
Parish Budock
District Falmouth, Falmouth
Administrative County Cornwall

Householder 1
Name Henry Toy
Age 37
Estimated Year of Birth 1834
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Birth Place Cornwall
Birth County Cornwall

Householder 2
Name Mary Toy
Age 32
Estimated Year of Birth 1839
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Cornwall
Birth County Cornwall

Householder 3
Name Mary Toy
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1861
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Cornwall
Birth County Cornwall

Householder 4
Name Lavinia Toy
Age 8
Estimated Year of Birth 1863
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Cornwall
Birth County Cornwall

Householder 5
Name Henry Toy
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1865
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Cornwall
Birth County Cornwall

Householder 6
Name Louisa Toy
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1868
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Cornwall
Birth County Cornwall

Householder 7
Name Elizabeth Toy
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Cornwall
Birth County Cornwall

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Jul 2011 12:16

Henry Toy
England and Wales Census, 1881

birth: 1865 —Wendron, Cornwall, England
residence: 1881 —Wendron, Cornwall, England
census: 1881 —Wendron, Cornwall, England
parents: Joseph Toy, Elizabeth Toy

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Henry Toy
age: 16
gender: Male
birth year: 1865
birthplace: Wendron, Cornwall, England
relationship to head of household: Son
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Tin Miner (Stamps)
address: Carthew
census place: Wendron, Cornwall, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341557
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 2322 / 5
page number: 4


Henry Toy
England and Wales Census, 1881

birth: 1863 —Helston, Cornwall, England
residence: 1881 —Helston, Cornwall, England
census: 1881 —Helston, Cornwall, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Henry Toy
age: 18
gender: Male
birth year: 1863
birthplace: Helston, Cornwall, England
relationship to head of household: Stepson
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Bankers Clerk
address: Lower Green
census place: Helston, Cornwall, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341558
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 2323 / 38
page number: 19


Henry Toy
England and Wales Census, 1901

birth: 1863 —Helston, Cornwall
residence: 31 Mar 1901 —Helston, Cornwall, England
census: 31 Mar 1901 —Helston, Cornwall, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Henry Toy
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 38
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Helston, Cornwall
record type: Household
registration district: Helston
sub-district: Helston
ecclesiastical parish: St Michaels And All Saints Chapel
civil parish: Helston
county:

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 31 Jul 2011 12:16

possible birth for census above

Name Henry Toy
Year of Registration 1865
Quarter of Registration Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Falmouth
Registration County Cornwall
Mother's maiden name
Volume Number 5C
Volume Page 219

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Jul 2011 12:18

1881

Joseph TOY Head M Male 54 Wendron, Cornwall, England Tin Miner
Elizabeth TOY Wife M Female 42 Wendron, Cornwall, England
Henry TOY Son Male 16 Wendron, Cornwall, England Tin Miner (Stamps)
Harriet TOY Daur Female 14 Wendron, Cornwall, England Mine Girl


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Source Information:
Dwelling Carthew
Census Place Wendron, Cornwall, England
Family History Library Film 1341557
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2322 / 5
Page Number 4

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Jul 2011 12:19

1881

Henry TOY Head M Male 47 Wendron, Cornwall, England Farmer
Elizabeth TOY Wife M Female 45 Wendron, Cornwall, England
Henry TOY Son U Male 20 Wendron, Cornwall, England Tin Miner
Joseph TOY Son U Male 19 Wendron, Cornwall, England Engine Driver
Mary A. TOY Daur Female 14 Wendron, Cornwall, England
John TOY Son Male 11 Wendron, Cornwall, England Scholar
Caroline J. TOY Daur Female 10 Wendron, Cornwall, England Scholar
Susan TOY Daur Female 8 Wendron, Cornwall, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling Carthvean
Census Place Wendron, Cornwall, England
Family History Library Film 1341557
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2321 / 75
Page Number 8

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Jul 2011 12:22

Henry Toy
England Marriages, 1538–1973

marriage: 10 Sep 1859 —Budock, Cornwall, England
parents: William Toy
spouse: Mary Jordan

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Henry Toy
bride's name: Mary Jordan
marriage date: 10 Sep 1859
marriage place: Budock, Cornwall, England
groom's father's name: William Toy
bride's father's name: George Jordan
indexing project (batch) number: I04591-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1545379

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Jul 2011 12:24

??

Lillie Toy
England and Wales Census, 1881

birth: 1871 —Budock, Cornwall, England
residence: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England
census: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England
parents: Henry Toy, Mary Toy

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Lillie Toy
age: 10
gender: Female
birth year: 1871
birthplace: Budock, Cornwall, England
relationship to head of household: Daughter
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Scholar
address: Rosemerryn Cottage
census place: Budock, Cornwall, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341556
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 2317 / 125
page number:

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Jul 2011 12:26

Lousia Toy
England and Wales Census, 1881

birth: 1868 —Budock, Cornwall, England
residence: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England
census: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England
parents: Henry Toy, Mary Toy

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Lousia Toy
age: 13
gender: Female
birth year: 1868
birthplace: Budock, Cornwall, England
relationship to head of household: Daughter
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Scholar
address: Rosemerryn Cottage
census place: Budock, Cornwall, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341556
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 2317 / 125

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Jul 2011 12:28

Elizabeth Toy
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

residence: Cornwall, England
parents: Henry Toy, Mary

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Elizabeth Toy
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 18 Sep 1870
baptism/christening place: BUDOCK,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
father's name: Henry Toy
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: D19800-4
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: unknown

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Jul 2011 12:29

James Toy
England and Wales Census, 1881

birth: 1873 —Budock, Cornwall, England
residence: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England
census: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England
parents: Henry Toy, Mary Toy

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: James Toy
age: 8
gender: Male
birth year: 1873
birthplace: Budock, Cornwall, England
relationship to head of household: Son
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Scholar
address: Rosemerryn Cottage
census place: Budock, Cornwall, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341556
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 2317 / 125
page number: 3

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Jul 2011 12:30

Michael Toy
England and Wales Census, 1881

birth: 1875 —Budock, Cornwall, England
residence: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England
census: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England
parents: Henry Toy, Mary Toy

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Michael Toy
age: 6
gender: Male
birth year: 1875
birthplace: Budock, Cornwall, England
relationship to head of household: Son
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Scholar
address: Rosemerryn Cottage
census place: Budock, Cornwall, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341556
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 2317 / 125
page number: 3

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Jul 2011 12:30

Charles Toy
England and Wales Census, 1881

birth: 1878 —Budock, Cornwall, England
residence: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England
census: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England
parents: Henry Toy, Mary Toy

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Charles Toy
age: 3
gender: Male
birth year: 1878
birthplace: Budock, Cornwall, England
relationship to head of household: Son
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Scholar
address: Rosemerryn Cottage
census place: Budock, Cornwall, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341556
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 2317 / 125
page number: 3

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Jul 2011 12:33

Harry Toy
England and Wales Census, 1881

birth: 1865 —Budock, Cornwall, England
residence: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England
census: 1881 —Budock, Cornwall, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Harry Toy
age: 16
gender: Male
birth year: 1865
birthplace: Budock, Cornwall, England
relationship to head of household: Servant
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Farm Servant (Indoor)
address: Rosemerryn House
census place: Budock, Cornwall, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341556
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 2317 / 125
page number: 3

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Jul 2011 12:35

I should have found this one first!!!

1881

Henry TOY Head M Male 47 Budock, Cornwall, England Agricultural Labourer
Mary TOY Wife M Female 43 Budock, Cornwall, England
Mary A. TOY Daur U Female 20 Budock, Cornwall, England
Lousia TOY Daur U Female 13 Budock, Cornwall, England Scholar
Lillie TOY Daur U Female 10 Budock, Cornwall, England Scholar
James TOY Son Male 8 Budock, Cornwall, England Scholar
Michael TOY Son Male 6 Budock, Cornwall, England Scholar
Charles TOY Son Male 3 Budock, Cornwall, England Scholar
Emily TOY Daur Female 2 Budock, Cornwall, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Rosemerryn Cottage
Census Place Budock, Cornwall, England
Family History Library Film 1341556
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2317 / 125
Page Number 3

Ellen

Ellen Report 31 Jul 2011 13:16

Wow - thanks for all your replies - I did make a silly typo in my original email which I should have picked up - Henry married Flora in Aust in 1887 - not 1997 as per my original post.

I did originally look at Henry Toy and Mary Jordan as the parents of Henry - the Toys of Rosemerryn House however all that lot are linked in big time to UK royalty and I thought I must have got it wrong.

So do you think Henry and Mary would be the best bet for my Henry's parents- I will have to dust off my tiara in that case.

cheers
Ellen

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Jul 2011 13:28

Well m'lady, I have no idea, but why should you not be related t royalty!!!

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Jul 2011 14:38

Ould Family of Cornwall
3 Mar 2005 ... I have used Church Registers of the two parishes and of Budock; .... was baptized at Budock in 1789. Thomas Old was baptized at Constantine in 1800. ... The eldest, another Richard, married Ann Toy from Trebah (also in ...

homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ouldfam/ould_fam.html - Similar

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 31 Jul 2011 16:30

FYI, from NLA Trove newspaper site (why does it only mention the bride's father!)

The Sydney Morning Herald, Saturday 14 January 1888
TOY--PENBERTHY.-December 21, at St. James, Sydney, by the Rev. Latimer Jackson, M.A., Henry Toy, of Sydney, to Flora Eveline Penberthy, only daughter of John Penberthy, of Glebe Point-road, Glebe.

Just found his funeral notices (Sat 16th Feb 1924, p.15), and apart from Flora and the children (Evelyn, Elsie & Linda), there is a notice from Henry's brother Edwin TOY!

His death:
13426/1941 TOY EDWIN [father] HENRY [mother] MARY MARRICKVILLE

The Sydney Morning Herald, Tuesday 22 April 1941
TOY. —April 18, 1941, at Home of Peace, Edwin Toy, Cowper Street, Glebe. Interred Rookwood Cemetery, April 19.

Henry & Flora also lived in Cowper St, Glebe.

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 31 Jul 2011 16:39

This is interesting - this birth comes up in a search at NSW bdm site for 1869, but the reg date comes up 2005!

181570/2005 TOY EDWIN [father] HENRY [mother] MARY

He is buried at Rookwood Anglican G465. In the same plot is Mary A TOY, buried 27/4/1883! I assume you are in NSW, if so you can phone the cemetery to see if they have additional info - 02 9746 2177.

Henry TOY is also buried at same cemetery, Anglican 7/1078, with Flora (buried 13/4/1948).