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Susan,
I already had the 1901 cencus. You posted on 26th July.

Susan,
I have the marriage cert og William and Margaret Ferry. (Nee, Neal)
Yes, it is the marriage to which you refer and I already had it (in cert form.).. You posted on 26th July.

Susan,
The birth of William Joseph Tucker you refer to, posted on
26th July, is the cert I already posses.

Susan,
No, I do not think the three possibly women you gave as marrying William Joseph Tucker. are correct. youir reply 26th July.
This because if you look at my original long details on 26th July, I stated that William and Margaret emigrated to the states in 1907. On he marriage to William her father is known as Joseph Neal. Her death cert. states, USA, father, Henry Jacob, Mother Margaret, yet again, and mothers maiden name as Neal.

Susan,
With-out getting the marriage of Violet to Coe, I cannot say whether this is correct. But it seems likely. The only thing is, Violet was on that sailing to America in 1907, September. I belive the violet that married Coe got married Oct, Nov. Dec. quarter. She must have had a quick visit to states and come home agin.??? posted to me 26th July

Susan,
I believe Clara was his child by the first marriage. She was born in 1880.
She did not sail to the states. William was 78yrs on his USA death cert. He had been residing in the states for 18yrs This is recorded on the death cert.. Which made him 60yrs when he went to states. He was 40yrs when he Married Margaret Ferry in England..
Not too late to marry for the 1st time as it is correct by death cert. and "length of time in states and details on marriage cert" Posted to me 26th July.

The childrens birth, and Williams 1st marriage were what I was asking about originally. I did say it was very tricky.


Flick

the descendents were my 2nd cousins great-grand-parents. She is only my 2nd cousin on our other great-grans side Your reply 26th July.

Flick,
Yes, that is the marriage to which I refer. William Tucker to Margaret Ferry (nee Neal) I have the marriage cert
( posted to me on 26th July).

Flick,
The birth of William Joseph Tucker, 1846, is the cert. one I have. (. Posted to me on 26th July.)

Flick
Violets name , yes, was recorded after the younger children, but she still could have been a Tucker by Williams 1st marriage. (Posted on 26th July)

Flick,
The marriage of Violet to a Coe does seem possible. I will get it. How-ever, on the 1907 sailing, violet went to the states with her parents in Sep. So she must have only stayed a short while before marrying in the Oct/ Nov/Dec quarter.??? (posted to me 26th July.

Flick,

the three marriages for williams 1st marriage I do not think are possible. As I explained on my long original detailed message below,
On Williams death, cert I have, He was 73yrs. It states "how long in States. 18 yrs"
On his marriage to Margaret Ferry he was 40yrs. (2nd marriage).He was 33 yrs on his 2nd marriage. I have that. So it was possible he was 33yrs of marrying for the first time. (posted to me on 26th July)
But on his death, it states Father Joseph Neal. Mother Margaret senior,
with a maiden name of Neal.

Originally I gave all info. It was the childrens births that were tricky. William could have married any-one.





I have commented on info given, as Flick has asked me too. to her and Susan.
But because of me wrongly confusing people on Ancestry and the pressure I am under, I will not be asking any-more.
Thanks
Carol Ihope by clicking the "Add reply" at very top of all messages I have done it right Have just clicked "add reply at top of page and it never went onto board. So am clicking preview and then submit

Sorry,
I am opting out of this now. I have clicked wrong boxes. I get confused. For instance the message about "why did I mark box answered"
There are two types of sending ." Send message where post are marked and member since."
Also ~" preview" and submit". The last one I think is the one I click to reply to you as I have just done. Submit.

I also get confused with "add to reply so it goes to the threads"
obviously I have not been doing this. I have put people to trouble.
I am under tremendous pressure with other matters and do not want to add any more pressure to my-self or Genes Re-united
Thanks
Carol

!!! Nice find Flick !!!

Carol please reply to the thread.

Do you have all the info you were looking for as you have ticked the thread as compleated.

Suex

Violet May Ellen Ferry

Birth:
Christening: 17 JUN 1888 Raunds, Northampton, England

Parents:
Father: Albert Ferry Mother: Margaret

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Source Information:
Batch No.: I007477

Carol

Why have you marked this thread as 'answered'?

Doing so means that no-one will try to help you any further.............it will be assumed that you have ALL the info you want.

Now, Carol, please add your comments on the info Susan and I have posted, once you have taken time to read it carefully

Just received yourmessage. sorry I clicked on wrong box. I believe it is the large one "add Reply"
Sorry
Carol

Three PM's received!

Advised Carol to add feedback on here.............

Purely for INFO.............1881

Name: Margaret Neal
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Shelton, Bedfordshire, England

Civil parish: Harmmersmith
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 130 The Grove
Occupation: Servant

Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: St Paul Hammersmith
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 55
Folio: 96
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
John Jas. Edridge 27
Mary A. Edridge 27
Ethel F. Edridge
Margaret Neal 17
Walte.T. Johnston 39
Fanny Johnston 27
J. Johnston 4
Arthur Johnston 3
Alice Smith 16

You and me both, Susan........I hope Carol remembers to check her thread!

Spent a lot of time on this one .
Nothing for the whole family in 1891,I wonder where they were then .
Also cannot find William Joseph in his first marriage in Census.

Carol Do you know if Clara was Williams Josephs first child.

I some how think he could have married before 1879 to another person as he would have been 33yrs old in that marriage I posted for 1879.
A bit late to marry for the first time .

Suex

Births Sep 1915 (>99%)
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Coe Mabel M Ferry Kettering 3b 272

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Births *** 1924 (>99%)
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Coe B**** H Ferry Kettering - married a Mr Dines

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Marriages Mar 1940 (>99%)
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Coe Mabel M Porch Kettering 3b 737
Porch Ronald A Coe Kettering 3b 737


Name: Mabel Margaret Porch
Birth Date: 15 Aug 1915
Date of Registration: Jul 1995
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Kettering
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Register number: B47D
District and Subdistrict: 6691B
Entry number: 282

The major stumbling block is that none of these people seems to have been recorded on the census in 1891 :-( :-(

Violets Death reg.


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Violet M E Coe
Name: Violet M E Coe
Birth Date: abt 1888
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1953
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Kettering
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 421

???????

Marriages Dec 1907 (>99%)
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COE Arthur Edward Kettering 3b 442
FERRY Violet May E Kettering 3b 442


1911

Person: COE, Violet
Address: 48 Digby St Kettering Northants


COE, Arthur Head Married M 25 1886 Clicker Leather Wellingboro Northants VIEW
COE, Violet Wife Married
3 years F 22 1889 Flat Machinist Raunds Northants VIEW
COE, Frederick Son M 1 1910 Kettering Northants VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
8579 Reference:
RG14PN8579 RG78PN444 RD167 SD2 ED11 SN157

Registration District:
Kettering Sub District:
Kettering Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Kettering

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Births Jun 1888 (>99%)
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FERRY Violet May E Thrapston 3b 200


Relationships on census returns are not always 100% accurate

Violet's name being recorded after that of younger children suggests that she was not a Tucker by birth............as is the case with Bert

Possible first marriage for William Joseph.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1879 (>99%)
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Lane Annie Thanet 2a 1290
PARSONS James Albert Thanet 2a 1290
Sherwood Eleanor Eliza Thanet 2a 1290
TUCKER William Joseph Thanet 2a 1290

Edite
Looking for the corect one

Possible for William Joseph birth.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about William Joseph Tucker
Name: William Joseph Tucker
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1846
Registration district: Gravesend
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5
Page: 202

Is this the marriage to which you refer?

Margaret Ferry Jul-Aug-Sep 1892 Kettering Northamptonshire
William Joseph Tucker Jul-Aug-Sep 1892 Kettering Northamptonshire


The first husband's death...................

Name: Albert Ferry
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1892
Age at Death: 30
Registration district: Kettering
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 137

*****************************************AND marriage........

Marriages Jun 1887 (>99%)
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Ferry Albert Thrapston 3b 357
NEAL Margaret Thrapston 3b 357