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Esther Newton

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Susan

Susan Report 14 May 2011 19:22

Have hit a brick wall looking for Esther born 1890 think Middlesbrough
fathers name Joseph. cannot find her on any census
Thanks Sue

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 May 2011 19:26

Hi Sue, how did you come across her? How do you know her father's name?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 May 2011 19:28

What about this as a possibility?

NEWTON, Joseph Head Married M 38 1863 Dock Labourer Yarm Durham
NEWTON, Margaret Wife Married F 32 1869 Thornaby Yorkshire
NEWTON, Annie Daughter F 13 1888 Thornaby Yorkshire
>>NEWTON, Hester Daughter F 10 1891 Thornaby Yorkshire
NEWTON, Margaret Daughter F 2 1899 Stockton Durham

Registration District: Hartlepool Sub District: Hartlepool Enumeration District: 20 Ecclesiastical Parish: Holy Trinity Hartlepool

Civil Parish: Hartlepool Municipal Borough:

Address: 13, Chapman Street, Hartlepool County: Durham

Susan

Susan Report 14 May 2011 19:29

She is my grandmother have her marriage certificate ,living in Middlesborough in 1913 ,living in Hartlepool in 1915. but cannot find her before then

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 May 2011 19:32

Sue, when did she marry your grand-dad and what's his name?

Susan

Susan Report 14 May 2011 19:33

could be but age wrong.on marraige certificate for 1913 she was 23

Susan

Susan Report 14 May 2011 19:37

name Robert Wrightson Pearson married 18 January 1913 at Middlesborough.Have his info from helpers on genes.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 May 2011 19:39

Susan, ages on census can never be relied on and are often a year or so out. It all depends on the person's actual birth date and the date when the census was taken.

The census enumerator would only ask how old a person was and then count back. So, if she was 10 years old he would subtract 10 from the year of the census and assume a birth year of 1891. But, obviously, she could have been 10 years old in 1901 but actually born 1890.

EDIT: her birth was registered Jun quarter 1890 so that fits with the age 10 on census.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 May 2011 19:46

Another point, in 1891 the families didn't fill in their own census so if the enumerator misheard Hester instead of Esther that is quite feasible.

Susan

Susan Report 14 May 2011 19:46

I may have been looking at the wrong spelling of name . Always known her as Esther,which is on certifacate also. But started as Hester

Barbara

Barbara Report 14 May 2011 19:49

Name: Ester Newton
Age: 11/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Stockton, Durham, England

Civil parish: Stockton On Tees
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Stockton On Tees
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: Unicorn Yard

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Stockton
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4053
Folio: 35
Page Number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Newton 27 Yarm General Labourer
Margaret Newton 21 Stockton
Hannah Newton 3
Ester Newton 11/12

1891 census

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 14 May 2011 19:56

What was Joseph's occupation on the marriage cert and who were the witnesses?

Rose

Barbara

Barbara Report 14 May 2011 20:22

1901 census
Name: Heston Newton
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph Newton
Mother's name: Margaret Newton
Gender: Female
Where born: Thornaby, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Hartlepool
Ecclesiastical parish: Hartlepool Holy Trinity
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: 13 Chapman Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 232
Piece: 4636
Folio: 96
Page Number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Newton 38
Margaret Newton 32
Annie Newton 13
Heston Newton 10
Margaret Newton 2


Susan

Susan Report 14 May 2011 20:24

Josephs occupation labourer and witnesses
John Charles Cooper and Minnie Stephens

Barbara

Barbara Report 14 May 2011 20:51

Hi Susan
On the census's the ages are not always correct and neither is the spelling of names . Also they had a bad habit of changing the place they were born.
Barbara

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 14 May 2011 21:31

Have you checked the address listed on the marriage cert in the 1911 census?

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 14 May 2011 21:57

Have you looked for her under Pearson. I'm thinking they were together before they married.

Seeing as Robert's mother was called Christiana:

Births Dec 1911
Pearson Christiana N Newton Hartlepool 10a 304

Deaths Dec 1911
Pearson Christiana N 0 Hartlepool 10a 17


Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 14 May 2011 22:06

There is an Esther Pearson born Stockton in Hartlepool. Would someone with access check?

Thanks,

Rose

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 15 May 2011 11:06

I think this is the 1911 that Rose is referring to:

PEARSON, Robert Head Single M 25 1886 Dock Labourer Yorks Souths Bank
PEARSON, Esther Housekeeper Single F 21 1890 Durham Stockton

Registration District: Hartlepool Sub District: Hartlepool Enumeration District: 52 Parish: Hartlepool

Address: 13 Johnson Square County: Durham

Think it's looking likely! What was the address on the marriage certificate?

Susan

Susan Report 15 May 2011 17:11

I agree they look like they lived together in 1911 i found the same one.the adress on the marraige certificate is 9 Branch st South Bank and 25 Branch St South Bank Middlesborough.
His mother was Christiana and he also had a sister called the same,his father married again and called his daughter that.