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Thank you Bridget, it's all clear now. So what you need now is the other children on the 1911 census looking for?

yes that all correct i have the birth certificate and harry and harriet marriage cert and thats where it says harry father is a john storrs traction engine driver.deceased. harry was 32 in 1902 ? cant find anything else its a mystery?which still makes him born 1870 unless he lied about his age?

Thank you Dea :) That's very strange, as the only birth I can find for a Harry Storrs in East Retford (Clarborough) is in 1866. However, the only likely Harry Storrs in 1901 born in Clarborough and living in Notts is only 17 born c1884. There is something here that we are missing.

I don't understand it. I left a message on here this morning but it doesn't seem to be here now.

I said - You need to work backwards Bridget. I am a little confused as to which certs you already have. If you have your father's birth cert, and his parents marriage cert, this should give you the age and fathers name (hopefully) of Iris. If it looks to be the same family as the 1911 census that we found, you need your grandmothers birth cert. Which would be this one -

Births Mar 1908
Storrs Iris Rotherham 9c 824

Then, if it's the right right Iris, you need the marriage cert of her parents, which may be this one.
Marriages Dec 1902
Gordon James William Doncaster 9c 1450
**********Phillips Harriet Doncaster 9c 1450
**********Storrs Harry Doncaster 9c 1450
Wright Marina Doncaster 9c 1450

You wanted the full 1911 details?

STORRS, Harry Head Married M 41 1870 Farm Labourer Clarboro Notts
STORRS, Harriet Wife Married 9 years F 36 1875 Armthorpe Yorks
PHILIPS, Anne Step Daughter Daughter Single F 15 1896 Armthorpe Yorks
STORRS, Mabel Daughter F 9 1902 Armthorpe Yorks
STORRS, Wilfred Son M 7 1904 Armthorpe Yorks
STORRS, Cyril Son M 5 1906 Armthorpe Yorks
STORRS, Iris Daughter F 3 1908 Herringhorpe Yorks
STORRS, Ivy Beatrice Daughter F 2 1909 Herringhorpe Yorks

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Registration District:
Rotherham Sub District:
South East Rotherham Enumeration District:
10 Parish:
Rotherham

Address:
Herringthorpe Rotherham County:
Yorkshire (West riding)


Dea x

hi i have everything except on harry storrs birth and death. i cannot match up his birth. on records ie marriage cert it says born 1870 clarborough notts whicjh is in area east retford. on his marriage cert it says dad was a john storrs a traction engine driver! i have found a death in 1944 liverpool south for a harry storrs age 77 and on the same page a wilfred storrs age 39 on death a couple years later . i am trying to piece that part of my tree let alone wher all the children went after harriets death in 1913. any ideas

Also, you said that you had found a likely death for Harry in 1940, but you haven't said where the death was or how old he was! I can't find the death you mean.

This is about the closet to age I found, especially if he died in Yorkshire -

Name: Harry Storrs
Death Registration Month/Year: 1960
Age at death (estimated): 86
Registration district: Pontefract
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2c
Page: 494

I am confused again Bridget. From all you have said the 1911 census and the deathgs/births etc seem to fit perfectly. You say that you know she was born on 16th Feb 2009, (which I take it to mean 1909). How do you know the exact date? Have you got her birth certificate?

Her mothers death in 1913 -
Mar 1913 STORRS Harriet 39 Rotherham 9c 928

Her birth - (remember she could have born in November 1907 and not registered until the following quarter)
Births Mar 1908
Storrs Iris Rotherham 9c 824

and I assume this is her death? - (which was possibly just a year out)

Name: Iris Knight
Birth Date: 8 Nov 1908
Death Registration Month/Year: Jan 2004
Age at death (estimated): 95
Registration district: Wellingborough
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Register number: 56C
District and Subdistrict: 673/1
Entry Number: 272

many thanks for all you doin. its a mystery where harry went i found on one census he was born in clarborough and on his marriagr cert. my grandmother was born on 16 th feb 2009 ans she told us her b day was nov 9th now i presume that is when she was put somewhere else her mum died oct 1913 when she was five. it is so sad i have found yhis out since she died as she never ever spoke about it to anyone. i will look at this stefan. really grateful to you. regards bridget

As you mention your grandmother Iris and also an Ivy I suspect that the 1911 census I posted above may be the right one. If someone would be kind enough to look at the full transcription we could see where he says he was born. I can only do a free search. This would perhaps help to find him on earlier census, as I suspect his age in 1911 (40) may not be quite accurate.

On your grandmothers death reference it gives her birth date as 8th November 1908. I am wondering if she was unsure of the year of her birth and perhaps it's the one I posted above. If she was born 8th November 1907, her birth may not have been registered until the next quarter.
I can't find any other likely birth for an Iris Storr, or a previous marriage of a Storr to an Iris.
Her birth cert should confirm her parents and then the parents marriage cert should help with Harry's age.

Have you got your grandmother Iris's birth cert Bridget?
Is this her -
Births Mar 1908
Storrs Iris Rotherham 9c 824

I can't see that death you have found in 1940 Bridget. How old is he and where did he die?

There is someone on GR that it may be worth contacting Bridget.
If you search trees (above) for a Cyril Storrs born 1906 you will find a Sephen has him in his tree. You could send him a private message and see whether you can help each other.
I can't find a likely marriage for Cyril, but this looks like his probable death -
Name: Cyril Storrs
Birth Date: 27 Dec 1905
Death Registration Month/Year: May 1985
Age at death (estimated): 79
Registration district: Doncaster
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire, Yorkshire
Volume: 3
Page: 694

hi you are so helpful i spent ages yesterday and have found a harry storrs died in 1940 s so i am ordering a death certificate. i wish we could have work house and fostering out in 1913 but keep hitting a brick wall.! ivy storrs was fostered and then at 14 went to work in a workhouse in halifax bur i can find nothing more out only that my nan iris was in servivce thanks for your help i am quite new to this site

This is confusing Bridget. The only Harry Storrs that appears to have been widowed in 1913 is this one -

Possible Death -

Mar 1913 STORRS Harriet 39 Rotherham 9c 928

Possible Marriage -

Marriages Dec 1902
Gordon James William Doncaster 9c 1450
**********Phillips Harriet Doncaster 9c 1450
**********Storrs Harry Doncaster 9c 1450
Wright Marina Doncaster 9c 1450

In 1911 - FREE search only -

STORRS HARRY M 1870 41 Rotherham Yorkshire West Riding
STORRS CYRIL M 1906 5 Rotherham Yorkshire West Riding
STORRS HARRIET F 1875 36 Rotherham Yorkshire West Riding
STORRS IRIS F 1908 3 Rotherham Yorkshire West Riding
STORRS IVY BEATRICE F 1909 2 Rotherham Yorkshire West Riding
STORRS MABEL F 1902 9 Rotherham Yorkshire West Riding
STORRS WILFRED M 1904 7 Rotherham Yorkshire West Riding

However, you say that the Harry Storrs you are talking about died in 1965. This is the only death I can find in 1965 and he is 78, making him born about 1887, not 1870.

Name: Harry Storrs
Death Registration Month/Year: 1965
Age at death (estimated): 78
Registration district: Wakefield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2d
Page: 704

many thanks but the harry storrs i am looking for was widowed in 1913 then i think he married a emily jessop and all his other children ie my nan were sent to homes and then to workhouse ! i cant trace them after 1911 census

Apart from Alan, who may have moved to Leeds? -

Name: Alan Storrs
Birth Date: 5 May 1927
Death Registration Month/Year: Mar 2000
Age at death (estimated): 72
Registration district: Leeds
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Register number: K18C
District and Subdistrict: 0921K
Entry Number: 71

They all appear to be staying in the same area so far. Another possible death (going by a marriage) for Constance -

Name: Constance Bywater
Birth Date: 10 Jan 1920
Death Registration Month/Year: Jul 1997
Age at death (estimated): 77
Registration district: Wakefield
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Register number: B44A
District and Subdistrict: 0991B
Entry Number: 165

A likely death (going by a marriage) for Evelyn.

Name: Evelyn Cross
Birth Date: 1 Dec 1914
Death Registration Month/Year: Feb 1989
Age at death (estimated): 74
Registration district: Wakefield
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Volume: 5
Page: 1409

It looks as though Jack died young -

Name: Jack Storrs
Death Registration Month/Year: 1928
Age at death (estimated): 5
Registration district: Wakefield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 33

Possible children born to Harry and Emily......

Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
Storrs Evelyn Jessop Wakefield 9c 30

Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Storrs Constance Jessop Wakefield 9c 23

Births Sep 1923 (>99%)
Storrs Jack Jessop Wakefield 9c 18

Births Jun 1927 (>99%)
Storrs Alan Jessop Wakefield 9c 16

??

Births Mar 1892 (>99%)
Jessop Emily Wakefield 9c 10


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1911 census - household transcription
Person: JESSOP, Emily
Address: 41 St Catherines St Bella Vue Wakefield

JESSOP, Mary Head Widow F 73 1838 Hull Yorks VIEW
JESSOP, Joe Wife Single M 22 1889 Coal Miner Nu Worker Below Ground Yorks Normanton VIEW
JESSOP, Emily Daughter Single F 19 1892 Weaver Cloth Yorks Normanton VIEW
JESSOP, Phoebe Daughter Single F 18 1893 Weaver Cloth Yorks Normanton VIEW
JESSOP, Elizabeth Clarice Daughter F 16 1895 Weaver Cloth Yorks Normanton VIEW
JESSOP, Fred Son M 10 1901 School Yorks Normanton VIEW
JESSOP, Ada Daughter F 6 1905 School Yorks Sandal VIEW
JESSOP, Ada Daughter F 5 1906 School Yorks Sandal VIEW
JESSOP, Alice Daughter F 3 1908 Yorks Sandal VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
27360 Reference:
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Registration District:
Wakefield Sub District:
Sandal Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Sandal Magna

Address:
41 St Catherines St Bella Vue Wakefield County:
Yorkshire (West riding)

Normanton is a town and civil parish within the City of Wakefield in West Yorkshire, England.