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that's a defense that is still used today ..... or so I hear!

You are right Sylvia - I had found that - hence I knew he was a Baker and Corn Chandler.

If you want a really good one - look up my gg grandfather John Peters (braid/ribbon manufacturer) in about 1830 - defence seems to be "it fell of the back of a cart my Lord"!! Fortunately he got off.

P

That Old Bailey stuff is fascinating!


It has to be this William Gowing in at least some of them!


JAMES RIDDLE, Theft > grand larceny, 10th July 1816.

... June , a cart, value 7l. the property of William Gowing . WILLIAM GOWING . I am a baker and corn chandler . I lost my cart from Cuizons Mews, Chelseacommon . I owed a gentleman of the name of Jones, a smal ...



sylvia

Thanks - that's a really good lead - the search goes back to Suffolk again

P

1851

GOWING, Simon Head Married M 63 1788 Retired Butcher
Holton
Suffolk
GOWING, Sarah Wife Married F 51 1800
Brentford
Middlesex
GOWING, Simon Son M 11 1840 Scholar
Kensington
Middlesex
GOWING, Joseph Son M 8 1843 Scholar
Kensington
Middlesex
GROVE, Maria Servant Unmarried F 20 1831 Servant
Kensington
Surrey

RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1468 Folio:
682 Page:
4

Registration District:
Kensington Sub District:
Kensington Town Enumeration District:
13 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Saint Johns

Civil Parish:
Kensington Municipal Borough:
Address:
3, Notting Hill Grove, Kensington County:
Middlesex


Name: Simon Gowing
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1859
Burial Date: 28 Jan 1859
Age: 71
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1788
Parish or Poor Law Union: Kensal Green All Souls
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
County: Middlesex


Births Mar 1840 (>99%)
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Gowing Simon William Kensington 3 272


Marriages Dec 1837 (>99%)
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GOWING Simon Strand 1 345


(could be a remarriage to Sarah, but her name is missing on Freebmd list)


Name: Sarah Ann Gowing
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1872
Burial Date: 29 Apr 1872
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800
Parish or Poor Law Union: Kensal Green All Souls
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
County: Middlesex

Thanks. If the census is missing and they are both dead then it looks as though I'm stuck.

I had found the marriage - need evidence. I wonfer if the Simon marrued 1812 is his brother - is he on a cenxux?

P

A 'nice little find' at the Old Baily Chris!!

It is always nice to have these little 'snippets' to add to the dreary old births, deaths and marriages!

Dea x

Deaths Dec 1850 (>99%)
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GOWING Mary Kensington 3 254

I saw this this morning, and did wonder...same year as William...

Lol, the missing census, so infuriating that :-))

Chris :)

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18160710-91&div=t18160710-91

I cannot find Mary on 1851 - I think it is probable that she died before this date??

Dea x

Looks like they may have had another child in 1911?

London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
about Mary Ann Gowing Name: Mary Ann Gowing
Baptism Date: 31 Mar 1811
Parish: St Luke, Chelsea
County: Middlesex
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Parent(s): William Gowing,
Mary Gowing
Record Type: Baptism

Dea x

Well, there you go then - I think this is why we cannot find them - they are NOT on there !!!

Known problems with the 1841 Census:

The following table shows piece numbers where part or all of the piece is missing, as well as piece numbers that were not used.


690 Middlesex Parish: ***Kensington (part)
Townships:
Brompton
Kensall Green (part)

Dea Xxx

Day: 29

Month: Sep

Year: 1809

Groom Forenames: William

Groom Surname: GOWING

Bride Forenames: Mary

Bride Surname: ATKIN

Place: Kensington

County: Middlesex

Country: England


Record source: West Middlesex Marriage Index

Data provider: West Middlesex Family History Society


Oh well done there Dea!, that looks a strong contender, found it's match on FMP... :-)

Chris :)

edits, to add this one, if related...same parish, down as T...(wonders if this is Holy Trinity, Brompton?)...

Name: Simon Gowing
Spouse: Ann Lockie
Marriage Date: 1812
Parish: Kensington

Still can't find them on 1841 but I wonder if this is the marriage?

Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837
about Wm Gowing Name: Wm Gowing
Spouse: Mary Atkin
Marriage Date: 1809
Parish: Kensington

Dea x

I have been searching too Chris but I just can't find 'any' of them !!!

Will keep at it....................

Dea x

No luck so far...(searching in between boring ol' house jobs, lol)

Chris :)

Nudging in the faint hope that someone can find them during the New Zealand night - probably mis transcribed as Smith!!

Peter

She got her age right in 1881, 1891 and 1901 though.

Can't find her in 1841 or 51 though - perhaps she was indoors preserving her complexion.

P

must have been very young looking!

Sorry - I see what you mean! Ten years different!

Peter

she declared her age on the marriage certificate to be 22

I looked at the image and that is what was written!

people did (and still do!) lie about their ages on marriage certificates!


She probbaly didn't want to appear older than her groom





sylvia