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1861 Census

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Fran Bris Oz

Fran Bris Oz Report 8 Mar 2011 12:17

I would like some help in trying to locate Cardinal Alexander Wynne b.1844 Camberwell. Cardinal is his first christian name taken from his mother's maiden name of Cardinal.
His mother died in 1849 when he was 5 and it appears the family was scattered.
I found a baptism in 1860 when he was 16 at St. Saviours, Southwark and he was living at Union Street, Southwark.
He left London for Australia on 28th December 1865.
Any other information as to his whereabouts in England would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Fran

Julie

Julie Report 8 Mar 2011 12:31

Fran

I had a look & couldn't see him

Vera

Vera Report 8 Mar 2011 12:33

I am having the same problem as well.

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 8 Mar 2011 12:53

I cannot even find him in 1851....have you found him there?

Regards Vera

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Mar 2011 13:06

No luck here either.
I wonder why he was baptised in 1860? Planning to marry? And why was there no occupation listed for father on the baptism record?

MarionfromScotland

MarionfromScotland Report 8 Mar 2011 13:20

found this..

Father: William WYNNE b: Abt 1815 in London, England
Mother: Sarah Esther CARDINAL b: 29th July, 1816 in London, England c: 19th January, 1817 in St.Dunstan, Stepney, Middlesex

Marriage 1 Mary Anne Phoebe REID b: 24th April, 1856 in At sea on voyage to Australia

* Married: 27th January 1873 in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
* Change Date: 6 Sep 2006

Children

1. Has No Children William Cardinal WYNNE b: 30th December, 1873 in Warwick, Queensland, Australia
2. Has Children John Reid WYNNE b: 19th April, 1875 in Warwick, Queensland, Australia
3. Has Children Watkin James WYNNE b: 3rd December, 1876 in Warwick, Queensland, Australia
4. Has Children Charles Edward WYNNE b: 7th November, 1878 in Warwick, Queensland, Australia
5. Has No Children Sarah Esther WYNNE b: 6th March, 1881 in Warwick, Queensland, Australia
6. Has Children Alexander WYNNE b: 11th May, 1883 in Warwick, Queensland, Australia
7. Has No Children Alfred Percival WYNNE b: 24th April, 1885 in Warwick, Queensland, Australia
8. Has No Children Elizabeth Victoria WYNNE b: 25th June, 1887 in Warwick, Queensland, Australia
9. Has Children Gwendoline WYNNE b: 9th September, 1889 in Warwick, Queensland, Australia
10. Has No Children Floyd Owen Robert WYNNE b: 14th September, 1891 in Warwick, Queensland, Australia

MarionfromScotland

MarionfromScotland Report 8 Mar 2011 13:23

# ID: I13
# Name: Cardinal (Alexander) WYNNE
# Given Name: Cardinal (Alexander)
# Surname: Wynne
# Sex: M
# Birth: 5th March, 1844 in Sylvan Grove, Old Kent Road, London
# Death: 19th May, 1891 in Warwick, Queensland, Australia
# Burial: 21st May, 1891 Warwick Cemetery, Queensland, Australia

MarionfromScotland

MarionfromScotland Report 8 Mar 2011 13:23

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=39fgw&id=I13

Vera

Vera Report 8 Mar 2011 18:25

Re Marion.......

1851Person: WYNN, Watkin
Institution: Camberwell Workhouse,




WYNN, Watkin M 5 1846 Scholar
Camberwell
Surrey VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1580 Folio:
564 Page:
2

Registration District:
Camberwell Sub District:
Camberwell Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St Giles Camberwell Municipal Borough:
Address:
St Giles Camberwell County:
Surrey



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So far no luck with Cardinal

Regards Vera

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 8 Mar 2011 22:05

There is C W age 7 living Goodmans Fields Whitechapel
Sorry I dont have access to see full details

Vera

Vera Report 8 Mar 2011 22:21

Hi QG

Is this on the 1851 census please?

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 8 Mar 2011 22:26

Have found the one you suggested on the 1851 unfortunately not the right family.

1851

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SCHONEHENBERGH, Henr Head Married M 47 1804 Tobacco Cutter
Hanover VIEW
SCHONEHENBERGH, J Wife Married F 45 1806 Waistcoat Maker
Southminster
Essex VIEW
SCHONEHENBERGH, H Son M 17 1834 Light Porter
Whitechapel VIEW
SCHONEHENBERGH, J Son M 16 1835 Errand Boy
Whitechapel VIEW
SCHONEHENBERGH, S Daughter F 13 1838
Whitechapel VIEW
SCHONEHENBERGH, E Daughter F 11 1840
Whitechapel VIEW
W, T Son M 9 1842 Scholar
Whitechapel VIEW
W, C Son M 7 1844 Scholar
Whitechapel VIEW
W, C Son M 5 1846 Scholar
Whitechapel VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1546 Folio:
178 Page:
35

Registration District:
Whitechapel Sub District:
Goodmans Fields Enumeration District:
1H Ecclesiastical Parish:
Saint Marks

Civil Parish:
Saint Mary Whitechapel Municipal Borough:
Tower Hamlets Address:
5, Rupert Street, Saint Mary Whitechapel, Tower Hamlets County:
Middlesex




Regards Vera

MarionfromScotland

MarionfromScotland Report 8 Mar 2011 22:44

I'm still hunting but ...nothing.

MarionfromScotland

MarionfromScotland Report 8 Mar 2011 23:20

Theres a bit in here about a ...Cardinal Alexander Wynne who went to Australia,father was a surgeon..William.
Its quite far down..May 2005.

http://books.dreambook.com/treadway/wynne.html

I'm off to bed I'm getting google eyed.

Marion


*** just realised it might be from the Fran who posted**

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 9 Mar 2011 01:20

Name: Sarah Esther Cardinal
Spouse Name: William Wynne
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 23 Mar 1837
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Upper Holloway
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 9 Mar 2011 01:28

Sibs - in case he's with any of them at census time:

Name: Amy Wynne
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1837
Baptism Date: 20 Oct 1837
Father's Name: William Wynne
Mother's Name: Sarah Esther Wynne
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington Holy Trinity
Borough: Islington

Born July 24th 1837, Father a medical student. Address Barnsbury Terrace.


Name: William Percy Wynne
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1839
Baptism Date: 14 Jul 1839
Father's Name: William Wynne
Mother's Name: Sarah Esther Wynne
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington Holy Trinity
Borough: Islington

Born feb 14th 1839 Father a student in medicine, Address 5, Banbury Terrace

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 9 Mar 2011 01:38

Possibly the family in 1841, pre-Cardinal, living in Upper Queen's buidings:

Name: William Wynne
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Kensington
Hundred: Ossulstone (Kensington Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Kensington

Household Members: Name Age
William Wynne 25 chemist
Sarah Wynne 20
William Wynne 2
Emily Wynne 8 MO


Kucinta

Kucinta Report 9 Mar 2011 01:45

Death:

Name: Amy Wynne
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1841
Burial Date: 21 Mar 1841
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Parish or Poor Law Union: Brompton Holy Trinity
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
County: Middlesex

Name: Sarah Esther Wynne
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1849
Burial Date: 12 Sep 1849
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Parish or Poor Law Union: Nunhead Cemetery, Linden Grove
Borough: Southwark
County: Surrey

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 9 Mar 2011 01:46

Sorry, still no joy with Cardinal in the census.

MarionfromScotland

MarionfromScotland Report 9 Mar 2011 08:43

Has Fran forgotten about this post?
I expect the time diference.


Marion