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Just for clarification on John birth year;

1871 England Census
about John Gardner
Name: John Gardner
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Henrietta M Gardner
Gender: Male
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland
Civil parish: Leyton
Town: Leytonstone
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Leyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 214
Household Members: Name Age
John Gardner 55
Henrietta M Gardner 28
Ada Gardner 4
Horace Gardner 6 Months


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For reference only.

1871

GARDNER, John Head lithograph artist M 55 1816 Glasgow Scotland
GARDNER, Henrietta M Wife F 28 1843 Fulham Middlesex
GARDNER, Ada Daughter F 4 1867 Kent VIEW
GARDNER, Horace Son M 0 1871 Stoke Newington Surrey
RG number:
RG10 Piece:
1634 Folio:
143 Page:
42

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
Leyton Enumeration District:
5 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Leyton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Wellesly Road Constradt Terrace, Leyton County:
Essex

Afternoon Wnedy,

Try this one, it could be John K Gardner from Scotland, with wife Sarah Gardner, however no indication as to how long they had been married:-

1880 US Census:

Name: John K. Gardner
Home in 1880: Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Sarah M. Gardner
Father's birthplace: Scotland
Mother's birthplace: Scotland
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Occupation: Works Rr
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
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Household Members: Name Age
John K. Gardner 66
Sarah M. Gardner 51
Emma M. Gardner 18
Jule P. Banoier 21

John Kirkland Gardner left his wife and family and went to America. He was born in Scotland in 1815 and was on the 1871 census living with Henrietta Bryan, 28 years his junior, her daughter Ada 1866 and their son Harace 1870 . Both Henrietta and Ada were listed as Gardner, his wife and daughter, although at the time this wasn't true. Henriettas husband Frederick Thomas Bryan sued for divorce in 1871 siting John Gardner. Frederick Bryan died in 1878 aged 32.

Henrietta Bryan Gardner died 29/05/1872 in Boston Massachuettes so they obviously left England between 02/04/1871 and the date of her death.

I have traced daughter Ada through to her death, she never went to America until after her marriage and even then I don't think there was any connection to the Gardners. I can't find anything at all on son Horace Frederick K (Kirkland??) Gardner except his birth and the 1871 entry.

John Kirkland Gardner remarried the year after Ada's death to a lady 28 years his junior and died in an accident in Manhattan in 1884.

If anyone with Worldwide Ancestry can tell me when they went to the US and if Horace was with them I would be very grateful

Wendy x