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Oh Heck!!!!!!!! What a sad ending to his life.

Just for interest ......

Before John left his wife and 8 children he owned 2 printing works in Fleet street and 3 houses in other parts of London. Somehow he managed to go bankrupt at about the same time as he was being sited in Henriettas divorce. This I guess was the reason for a new start in America.

Sadly I think the following, from the New York Times, was his death.

I am pleased to say our family way of life has improved quite a lot over the years.

This is too much of a coincidence and applies to the Eden Muse in Manhattan 1884

''Intrigued, 60-year old lithographer John Kirkland Gardner who lived on 21st Street paused to read the Sitting Bull advertisements outside the Eden Musee. A gust of wind caused one of the flags on the building to snap into one of the 300-pound stone urns on the balustrade above, dislodging it. The urn crashed squarely on the head of Gardner who was killed instantly.''

At least he had led a full and colourful life

I kept it in the family, my son has the middle name Kirkland...... nice to see it still being passed down.


Dee x

Hi Dee

Kirkland turns up as a middle name several time in my tree but as yet not as a surname. I expected it to me someones maiden name but not so far.

Thanks for all your help.

Wendy x

Hi Wendy,

I'm sorry I really don't know, hopefully someone will point you in the right direction though.


John's middle name is an interest to me as it was my maiden name, my ancestors were middle England based however I realise that way back they would have originated from Scotland.........I'm back to 1710 and no Scottish roots turned up yet.



Dee x

If baby Horace died at sea on the way from England to America does anyone know where the death would be registered?

Thanks aviegal for the 1850 and info re Charlotte. I hope Ancestry sort my World Wide out soon!

Wendy x

Dee's naturisation records are for the right guy. Therefore poor Ada died 6 days after arriving in America, perhaps she became ill during the crossing. Where where was baby Horace??? I wonder if he also became ill and died too

Wendy x

1850 United States Federal Census
about Charlotte Doke
Name: Charlotte Doke
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Birth Place: Michigan
Gender: Female
Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Tecumseh, Lenawee, Michigan
Family Number: 816
Household Members:
Name Age
William F Doke 38 b Vermont, cooper
Mary Doke 36 b England
William Doke 16
Charlotte Doke 13
Charles Doke 8
Benjamin Doke 5
Nathaniel Doke 3

Alviegal thanks for that as it gives birth place of Lotties parents

Hi ***alviegal*** ,

Still can't see John entering the USA, yours was definately the closest match.

Wendy I don't see anything for Horace after the 1871 census.


Dee x

Dee thanks again, I guess lied about his age as Lottie was so much younger than him

I wish I could find something on Horace as he would only have only been about 18 months. Ada went to live with her maternal grandmother but Horace has disappeared have checked english census's, deaths 1911 etc

Wendy

This one is interesting. John is nearly 20 years younger than he should be though!!

1880 United States Federal Census
about John Gardener
Name: John Gardener
Home in 1880: New York City, New York, New York
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Lottie Gardener
Father's birthplace: Scotland
Mother's birthplace: Scotland
Neighbors: View others on page
>>>Occupation: Lithorgrapher
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:

View image
Household Members:
Name Age
John Gardener 46
Lottie Gardener 39 Birthplace: Michigan, Father's birthplace: Vermont
Mother's birthplace: England
Lena Gardener 13 Birthplace: Scotland


Sorry Dee you got there first!! Great minds think alike though.

This is great, thanks to all. I found that on 14/10/ 1886 Lorena Morehouse Gardner, mothers name Lottie Doke, married Joseph L Doke. Lottie was born Lottie Doke.

Wendy

Ooopppsss.......... check out his birth year!!

1880 United States Federal Census
about John Gardener
Name: John Gardener
Home in 1880: New York City, New York, New York
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Lottie Gardener
Father's birthplace: Scotland
Mother's birthplace: Scotland
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Lithorgrapher
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane: View image
Household Members: Name Age
John Gardener 46
Lottie Gardener 39
Lena Gardener 13 >>>>>>>> born scotland!


Dee x

Thank you Dee that fits except birth place says England not Scotland.

John married Lottie Morehouse on 19/06/1873 it was stated as a second marriage for both of them. If this true he never married Henrietta as his. first marriage was to my great grandmother in London

Sorry for any delays in replying but I am going backwards and forwards to Ancestry who in an attempt to upgrade me have cancelled me and nothing more so far.

Wendy x

Well done Dee.

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Jno K Gardner
Name: Jno K Gardner
Arrival Date: 25 May 1872
Birth Year: abt 1821
Age: 51
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: English
Place of Origin: England
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Denmark


Edit No this one is a surveyor, travelling with Maria 57, Maria 5 and infant Frederick.

U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project)
about John K Gardiner
Name: John K Gardiner
Birth Date: 29 Nov 1815
Birth Place: England
Age at event: 64
Court District: New York
Year of Arrival: 1872
Date of Action: 18 Oct 1880

Occupation; ARTIST

Date or Arrival; 23rd May 1872.


Dee x

Hi Wendy,

Who did he marry after Henrietta died?


Dee x

HI all,

I'm having trouble with upgrading to Ancestry World Wide which is why I am asking for help.

Lynn this isn't the right one I have tracked him back.

The 1871 census is the correct one but John was born in 1815 Henrietta was born in 1843 Fulham registered Kensington, Ada was registered Lambeth and Horace in Islington

Thank you all for your help

Wendy x