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Hi again,

I do not believe that John Harris and Emily Wilson nee Harris are siblings, maybe Walter Barrow and Emily's father William E were siblings!!

I have suggested to my friend, that the only way she might find out how they are related is to buy Emily's fathers marriage certificate, which might have his fathers name.

I can't find a listing for it unfortunately so I'm afraid it looks like you will have to buy the marriage certificate

Astra

Thanks, Astra and Clare for all this information, it is very much appreciated.

Is it possible to see who the parents were on the marriage of Emily Harris and John Wilson Sep 1876, Greenwich, 1d 1259

Thanks again.

It would appear that Ann Tamplin and Walter Barrow Harris co-habited but never actually married. The baptism records of their children all show just the mother's name.
Ann Tamplin died in 1895. here is her burial record
Year: 1895
Month: Jan
Day: 20
Surname: TAMPLIN
Forenames: Ann
Residence: Woolaston
Age_at_death: 77

baptism and death of Walter Barrow Harris

Year: 1814
Month: Dec
Day: 26
Parents_Surname: HARRIS
Child_Forenames: Walter Barrow
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Woolaston
Occupation: Sailmaker
Officiating_Minister: C Bryan
Event: Baptism

Year: 1891
Month: Jan
Day: 15
Surname: HARRIS
Forenames: Walter Barrow
Residence: Woolaston
Age_at_death: 75

baptism records

Year: 1846
Month: Mar
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: TAMPLIN
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Mothers_Forenames: Ann

Year: 1846
Month: Aug
Day: 30
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: Susannah
Fathers_Forenames: Charles
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Woolaston
Occupation: Labourer

Herre's their marriage record

Year: 1869
Month: Sep
Day: 4
Grooms_Surname: TAMPLIN
Grooms_Forenames: John Harris
Grooms_Age: Full age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Engine Driver
Grooms_Residence: Woolaston
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Harris
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Walter Barrow
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Sailmaker
Brides_Surname: JONES
Brides_Forenames: Susannah
Brides_Age: Full age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Woolaston
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Jones
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Charles
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Wheelwright
Licence_or_Banns: Banns

It's very odd. The only Walter Barrow Harris that I can find in 1841 is married to Eliza and is a butcher. But there were two of them. They were both born and died within a year of each other .


Deaths

Walter Barrow Harris abt 1815 1890 Chepstow Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire

Walter Barrow Harris abt 1816 1891 Chepstow Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire

I think that I might leave this for a while, have just checked with my friend, this is the 1861 Census that she has, so I think that the Tamplin might be a different family

Harris, William 58 head
Harris, Mary 46
Harris, Emily 7
Harris, Walter 5
Harris, Edmund 2
Harris, George 24

OK Mel. Got it now I have just read the rest of the OP's message where he mentions them.

Astra,

The 1891 Census, address Common, Woollaston

Harris, John head 45 1846 Fisherman
Harris, Susannah wife 47 1847 Dressmaker
Harris, Gertrude daughter 11 1880
Harris, Charles Son 8 1883
HARRIS, LILY daughter 8 1883<<<<<<<<

The 1911 Census, is the Wilson family that I had originally researched for a friend, she asked me to find out any details on the cousins, Lily & Walter Harris.

The mother of the Wilson children was originally a Harris.

Astra,

So this is the 1881 Census, Address, Netherend, Woollaston

Harris, Walter Barrow Head 1813 Sail Maker
Harris, Ann wife 1820
Harris, Alfred son 1860 Paper Maker
Harris, Sidney son 1862 Paper Maker
Harris, Mary daughter 1868 Scholar

Sorry Mel. You have lost me with that?

Flip & Astra,

This is the 1911 Census,

Wilson Lillian Emily, Head
Wilson Florence Ellen Sister
Wilson John Henry Sister
Wilson Dorothy Mary Sister
Wilson Jessie Isabel Sister
HARRIS LILY SUSANNAH COUSIN 1883
HARRIS WALTER HENRY COUSIN 1889

It will be interesting to find if he names Walter Harris as his father on his marriage certificate

John Tamplin
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's name: Walter B Harris
Gender: Male
Where born: Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish or Township: Woolaston
Ecclesiastical parish: Tower Hamlet
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Chepstow
Sub-registration district: Shire
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Household schedule number: 81
Household Members: Name Age
Walter B Harris 37 >>>>Sailmaker Journeyman
Ann Tamplin 30 >>>>Lodger unmarried Housekeeper
William Tamplin 7
John Tamplin 5
Frederick Tamplin 2


1861

Ann Tamplin
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relation: None
Gender: Female
Where born: Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Woollaston
Ecclesiastical parish: Gloucester
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Household Members: Name Age
Walter B Harris 48
Ann Tamplin 40
William Tamplin 18
John Tamplin 16 >>>>Miller
Frederick Tamplin 13
Henry Tamplin 11
Alma Tamplin 6
>>>>Emily Tamplin 4 >>>>Your Emily perhaps? Sister to John
Alfred Tamplin 1


Susannah with her parents

Susannah Jones
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Charllo Jones
Mother's name: Eather Jones
Gender: Female
Where born: Wollaston, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: West Dean
Ecclesiastical parish: Bream St Peter
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Household Members: Name Age
Charllo Jones 39 >>>>Carpenter born Wollastron
Eather Jones 40
>>Susannah Jones 15
Eliza Jones 7
Charles Jones 1
John Fletcher 23

I wonder if he is John Harris Tamplin?

Marriages Sep 1869 (>99%)
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DAVIS John Chepstow 11a 27
JONES Susannah Chepstow 11a 27
NASH Sarah Jane Chepstow 11a 27
TAMPLIN John Hains Chepstow 11a 27

I wonder why they are noted as Tamplin in the 1871

Susannah Tamplin
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John Tamplin
Gender: Female
Where born: Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Woolaston
Town: Lower Hamlet
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Chepstow
Sub-registration district: Lydney
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 108
Household Members: Name Age
John Tamplin 25 >>>>>Fisherman
Susannah Tamplin 24
Edith AL Tamplin 10 Months
Eliza Jones 17 >>>>>Visitor

Then maybe you'll be best to get one of the childrens B/C for her maiden name

Yes, I have looked for a marriage, but cannot find one that fits the area.