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lol!!!

but of course 25 would have been shown as 25 anyway!


it's 26 - 29 that would have been rounded down by 1or more years.

Gotta contradict you now, Sylvia. Ages 25-29 were shown as 25.

Maureen


sorry to contradict you


but ages were supposed to be rounded DOWN to the nearest 5 on the 1841 census


so it is the reverse of what you said


anyone aged 21 - 24 was shown as age 20, 26 - 29 was shown as 30


but some enumerators did ignore the instruction, and wrote down the exact age.



sylvia

I noticed the comment that ages change on the census. In 1841 the age was not always exact, the recorder was only required to record the age up to 15 years and then round it up to the nearest '5'. So if you were 21,22,23,24 or 25 - you would be listed as 25, then from 26-30, you would be 30 etc. Some recorders wrote the exact age, others just rounded it up.

Births Jun 1851 (>99%)
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Graham Stan Carlisle 25 77

The original is not clear, but it could by Stow not Stan

This looks like his death though, but the original states Graham Stow (no mention of , S)


Deaths Sep 1901 (>99%)
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Graham Stow, S 48 Carlisle 10b 438

Hi Flip, you have been busy! Thanks for all your searching, Whatever Stow/Stower is called he does not get registered as such. Because the ages/dates of birth for all the children change so much in the census it is difficult to determine if it is possibly a nickname for Oliver 1849 or some other before William 1855?

He was still on 1901 census, living with sister Annie Elizabeth Johnston at same address - she was now the innkeeper and head of household. No sign of Annie's husband though.

Actually take that back. He is on the 1891 census with mother (a widow):

Stow Graham
Age 35
Estimated Year of Birth 1856
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Upholsterer
Address 8, Corporation Road
District Carlisle, St Mary
Parish Rickergate
Administrative County Cumberland
Birth Place Carlisle
Birth County Cumberland

Other family:
Mary 73 widow publican scotland
Ann Elizabeth 39 assisting mother

plus some boarders.

Not convinced the name is what is on the original - but it is so difficult to read. Do you have access to original records so you can look for yoursels?

Thanks Flip, the son now has a name! Isaac should be about 70/71

Sorry, this bit didn't post:
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
5157 Folio:
97 Page:
12

Registration District:
Carlisle Sub District:
St Cuthbert Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Rickergate Municipal Borough:
Address:
8, Corpotation Road, Rickergate County:
Cumberland

According to the original the pub is called the Dukes Head

This looks like them, but the ages are way out on 1881 census!

GRAHAM, Isaac Head Married M 81 1800 Inn Keeper
Penrith
Cumberland VIEW
GRAHAM, Mary Wife Married F 60 1821
Scotland VIEW
E GRAHAM, Annie Daughter Single F 28 1853 Houesmaid Dom.
Carlisle
Cumberland VIEW
GRAHAM, Stow Son Single M 25 1856 Upholsterer Unemployed
Carlisle
Cumberland VIEW
MC CLAUGHLAN, Jane Servant Single F 24 1857 Dom Serv
Scotland VIEW
DEENY, Patrick Boarder Single M 33 1848 Cattle Dealer
Ireland VIEW
DOHERTY, James Boarder Single M 28 1853 Cattle Dealer
Ireland VIEW
BRYSON, William Boarder Single M 25 1856 Cattle Dealer
Ireland VIEW

Thank you for what you have found Flip.
The last family will need checking out to see if they are in any way related.

Strange, they don't appear to be together on 1881 census but there is another Graham family at the same address - coincidence?

824 GRAHAM, David Head Married M 36 1845 Wine Merchant Warehouseman
Rockliffe
Cumberland VIEW
824 GRAHAM, Dorothy Wife Married F 40 1841 Grocer
Carlisle
Cumberland VIEW
824 GRAHAM, Richard Son Single M 16 1865 Black & Whitesmith
Carlisle
Cumberland VIEW
824 GRAHAM, Thomas James Son Single M 15 1866 Drapers Apprentice
Carlisle
Cumberland VIEW
824 GRAHAM, Margaret Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar
Carlisle
Cumberland VIEW
824 GRAHAM, John Irving Son Single M 4 1877
Carlisle
Cumberland VIEW
824 GRAHAM, Joseph William Son Single M 2 1879
Carlisle
Cumberland VIEW
824 GRAHAM, Elizabeth Jane Daughter Single F 0 1881
Carlisle
Cumberland VIEW
824 GRAHAM, Jane Niece Single F 15 1866 Dom Serv
Rockliffe
Cumberland VIEW

RG number:
RG11 Piece:
5157 Folio:
98 Page:
13

Registration District:
Carlisle Sub District:
St Cuthbert Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Rickergate Municipal Borough:
Address:
4, Corporation Road, Rickergate County:
Cumberland

Looks like they had more children according to 1861 census:

Mary Graham
Age 45
Estimated Year of Birth 1816
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation Victualler & Inn Keeper
Address 4, Corporation Road
District Carlisle, St Mary
Parish Rickergate
Administrative County Cumberland
Birth Place Scotland

Other household:
Isaac 49 Cab proprietor Penrith
Ann 17 Carlisle
George 11 Rickerby
Oliver 9 Rickerby
?? (son) 8 Carlisle (can't make out the name)
William 5 Carlisle

And in 1871:
Mary Graham
Age 55
Estimated Year of Birth 1816
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Address Corporation Road
District Carlisle, St Mary
Parish Rickergate
Administrative County Cumberland
Birth Place Scotland

Isaac 60 Innkeeper Penrith
Mary E 24 Carlisle
Geo 22 Rickerby
Stou?? 19 Carlisle
Minnie Oliver 60 sister (widow) Scotland
Margaret Irving 23 Servant Scotland
James Coyle 60 Boarder Ireland

Frances

it was not unusual for 2 or more children to be baptized on the same day


it was cheaper!


or sometimes, there was not a priest / vicar in the town or village at all times.




sylvia

From the single line G.R. census it appears that Isaac and Mary were still in Carlisle in 1861

Thanks for that Mel. The census suggests that although John and Mary were christened on the same day they were not twins. I have looked for a marriage of Isaac and Mary in Scotland but not found one. I am guessing she was possibly

MARY BRUCE PENNY
Christening: 07 SEP 1815 Peterhead, Aberdeen
Father: WILLIAM PENNY

All children of Issac and Mary on IGI.

1. WILLIAM GRAHAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 20 MAY 1855 Saint Mary, Carlisle, Cumberland, England

2. JOHN GRAHAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 26 JUN 1836 Saint Mary, Carlisle, Cumberland, England

3. ISAAC GRAHAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 10 SEP 1837 Saint Mary, Carlisle, Cumberland, England

4. ANN GRAHAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 19 JAN 1840 Saint Mary, Carlisle, Cumberland, England

5. MARY GRAHAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 26 JUN 1836 Saint Mary, Carlisle, Cumberland, England