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Ozi

Thanks ozibird, well done much needed help
Kathy

Thanks ozibird, well done much needed help
Kathy

Thanks ozibird, well done much needed help
Kathy

Thanks for all the info Ozibird, you always seem to find the impossible, how do you do it? Do you have discs or a database, I would'nt mind having one myself, anyway thanks for all your help
Kathy

Thanks for all the info Ozibird, you always seem to find the impossible, how do you do it? Do you have discs or a database, I would'nt mind having one myself, anyway thanks for all your help
Kathy

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Derbyshire, England
parents: Joseph Brooks, Lydia

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Hannah Brooks
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 24 Jan 1802
baptism/christening place: TICKNALL,DERBY,ENGLAND
father's name: Joseph Brooks
mother's name: Lydia
indexing project (batch) number: C05900-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 428946


record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Lydia Brooks
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 14 Jul 1805
baptism/christening place: TICKNALL,DERBY,ENGLAND
father's name: Joseph Brooks
mother's name: Lydia
indexing project (batch) number: C05900-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 428946
death: 02 Jul 1810 <<<<<


record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: James Brookes
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 16 Aug 1807
baptism/christening place: TICKNALL,DERBY,ENGLAND
father's name: Joseph Brookes
mother's name: Lydia
indexing project (batch) number: C05900-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 498136


record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Dorothy Brooks
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 03 Jul 1814
baptism/christening place: TICKNALL,DERBY,ENGLAND
father's name: Joseph Brooks
mother's name: Lydia
indexing project (batch) number: C05900-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 498136

Hi, thanks, yes Janes birth cert would confirm mothers name. I also had Marys mother as Sarah Brooks, she may have remarried. Patchem if Lydia was Sarahs mother she must have had Mary before she married? I have just done a search for Thomas Byard and it seems he also only had his mothers name on record, well looks like I am going to his a dead end with this lot tonight.

Thanks again
Kathy

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Sarah Brooks
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 01 Sep 1811
baptism/christening place: TICKNALL,DERBY,ENGLAND
father's name: Joseph Brooks
mother's name: Lydia
indexing project (batch) number: C05900-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 498136

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Thomas Byard
bride's name: Sarah Brookes
marriage date: 01 Jul 1830
marriage place: Wirksworth,Derby,England
indexing project (batch) number: M05949-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 498147

Eveie, could be:
LYDIA BROOKS
Marriages:
Spouse: JOHN GRATTON
Marriage: 12 MAY 1816 Saint Alkmund, Derby, Derby, England
M055371

If this is Jane:
Births Jun 1844
Byard Jane Ashby de la Zouch 15 5
correct Mother's maiden name on birth certificate.

could be sarahs mother who remarried ??????? thinking out loud

Hi again, I live a long way from the area these rellies came from, so not an option at the minute I am afraid, never mind, I might get lucky. In the meantime could you look at this census, its the 1851 census.




1851 England Census
Name: Mary Byrard [Mary Byard]
Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Thomas Byrard
Mother's name: Sarah Byrard

Where born: Ashby De La Zouch, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Ashby de la Zouch
Town: Ashby de la Zouch County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England
Street address: Heafield's Yard

Occupation:Glover

Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch Sub-registration district: MeashamHousehold Members: Name Age
Thomas Byrard 47 - Journeyman Coach Smith; Ticknall, Derbysh.
Sarah Byrard 41 - Ticknall, Derbysh.
Walter Byrard 18 - Plumber (App); Derby
Mary Byrard 12 Ashby de la Zouch
Dorothy Byrard 11 - Scholar; Ashby de la Zouch
Jane Byrard 6 - Scholar; Ashby de la Zouch
Lydia Gretton 78 - mother-in-law; widow; (Pauper) formerly House Servant; Ticknall, Derbsh

Lydia Gretton is named as mother in law, am I right in thinking this would have been Sarahs mother, making her maiden name Sarah Gretton?

Just looking for clues if you have any I am all ears

Thanks again
Kathy

Is this your marriage of Thomas and Sarah?:
THOMAS BYARD
Spouse: SARAH BROOKES
Marriage: 01 JUL 1830 Wirksworth, Derby, England
M059491
as the 1841 census has his mother-in-law as Lydia Gratton.

Good luck, Cathy. This looks like a visit to the archives, doesn't it?

Ozi

Hi everyone, thanks for taking the time for this brick wall, yes Osibird I have tried to find this one before, thought I would give it another try. Its odd that some of the children are on the LDS but not the one I need. the youngest of the children was George he was born 1830 and died the same year, then Walter in 1833 which you have posted. Whatever happened to my Mary, I have her with other siblings on census but no sign of parish records for them. Thomas and Sarah married in 1830, in Wirksworth, Derby

I have not found there births yet either!!

I know when I post a message it posts 2.3.4 times, its my lap top playing up, needs looking at I think, so please bare with me.

Thanks all
Kathy

She may not show on free bmd as records do not start until September quarter of 1837, and was not compulsory. (Cannot see Dorothy either)

Hmmm - the Belper birth may be a possibility. Although Walter is always born Derbyshire on census while Mary is always Ashby.

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Walter Byard
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 28 Mar 1833
baptism/christening place: SAINT PETER,DERBY,DERBY,ENGLAND
father's name: Thomas Byard
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: C04985-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 498067

1841 England Census
about Mary Byard
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Gender: Female
Where born: Leicestershire
, England
Civil Parish: Ashby de la Zouch
Hundred: West Goscote
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Ashby de la Zouch
Sub-registration district: Ashby de la Zouch
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Byard 35
Sarah Byard 35
Walter Byard 8
Mary Byard 4
Dorothy Byard 1
Lydia Gratton 60
Jane Hartle 15