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I'm looking for an Annie Vose born circa 1880 in Liverpool. She had a sister Alice Vose born c1880. Annie married Ernest Hewitt in 1905 in Liverpool. Can anyone tell me anything about this family?

Many Thanks in advance?

Una

Not sure if this is Annie in 1911, age a little out from what you said:


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HEWITT, Ernest Head Married M 39 1872 Furniture Packer Worcester Stourbridge .
HEWITT, Ann Emma Wife Married 5 years F 35 1876 Lancs Liverpool.
HEWITT, Ernest George Son M 4 1907 Lancs Liverpool.
HEWITT, Alice Elizabeth Daughter F 2 1909 Lancs Liverpool .

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Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
Wavertree Enumeration District:
15 Parish:
Wavertree

Address:
7 Standale County:
Lancashire

Two children born, both still living in census 1911

Hi, here is their marriage on freebmd

Marriages Jun 1905
HEWITT Ernest Liverpool 8b 115
VOSE Annie Liverpool 8b 115

She does show up on the 1881 census at 2 years old, I do not have a subscription to fmp censuses so I cannot give you more details

Regards

Margaret

The only Alice I can find with a sister Ann or Annie, again, the ages are a few years out from what you said:

Census 1881:

Name: Allice Vase
[Allice Vose]
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Richard Vase
Mother's name: Alice Vase
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 16 Oliver Street
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholer

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby (Municipal)
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Vase 39 c1842 Liverpool, Lancashire, England. Carter.
Alice Vase 33 c1848 Liverpool, Lancashire, England.
James R. Vase 15
Eliza Vase 13
William Vase 10
Margret Vase 8
>>Allice Vase 6 c1875 Liverpool, Lancashire, England.
>>Ann Vase 4 c1877 Lancashire, England
Hugh Vase 1
Margret Vase 76 mother c1805 Burscough, Lancashire, England.
Hugh Vase 33 brother c1848 Burscough, Lancashire, England

Hi Good Find....on the image Ann Vose

Regards Vera

Thanks Vera, the ages are a little out from what Una posted, but Ann's talliesreasonably with the age of Ann Emma married to Ernest in census 1911.

Possi?ble births

Births Mar 1875 (>99%)
Vose Alice W. Derby 8b 526

Births Jun 1877 (>99%)
Vose Fanny Ann W. Derby 8b 516

Birth? : Vose Ann Emma W. Derby 8b 557 OND 1875.

Same family on 1891 census, so maybe the wrong family found on 1881?

Alice Vose
Age 16
Estimated Year of Birth 1875
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation
Address 16, Oliver Street
District West Derby, West Derby (Municipal)
Parish West Derby
Administrative County Lancashire
Birth Place Liverpool
Birth County Lancashire
Other family:
Richard 49
Alice 44
William 20
Frances A 14 <<<
Hugh 11
John 6
Ellen 3

Dosen't look too good, does it? Given Annie was Ann Emma in 1911.

Wondered whether Ann E. got corrupted to Annie in some records.

I think this is the 1881 census entry Margaret mentioned, but no Alice:

Name: Ann Vose
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Vose
Mother's name: Elizabeth Vose
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Kirkdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 11 Tyne St
Education:


Household Members: Name Age

John Vose 25 c1856 St Helens, Lancashire, England. Confectioner.
Elizabeth Vose 26 c1855 Rainford, Lancashire, England.
William Vose 6
John Vose 4
>>Ann Vose 2 c1879 Liverpool.

Going back to Una's original posting, the ages are very vague - how sure are you about the marriage and that annie (or Ann Emma) had a sister Alice? I thought the Ann Emma birth was a bit too close, but not impossible, to Alice's birth.

I thought the same about Ann Emma and Alice's births being close, but not impossibly close - then Mac found the family in 1891 with Fanny Ann.

Strange Annie is Ann Emma in 1911, but Annie on her marriage.

Depending on how sure you are about the marriage, you always have the option of going for the marriage cert to establish Annie & Alice's father's name and occupation, or gambling on the Ann Emma birth cert.

Unless anyone can put more of the pieces together meanwhile.

Have to abandon ship, hospital appt.

Family (without Ann/Frances Ann) on 1901 census at same address - I think this is her marriage, but not sure which partner:

Marriages Jun 1898 (>99%)
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Crann Patrick West Derby 8b 909
JOHNSON Mary W. Derby 8b 909
Jones John James W.Derby 8b 909
>>>Vose Frances Ann W. Derby 8b 909

1881 and 1891 census I think the same family.....both living at 16 Oliver Street fathers occupation Carter.

Regards Vera

there was another Alice Vose registered 1879 W.Derby, but she hasn't appeared on 1881/1891 census with a sister Ann or any variation of the names.

Una, could you tell us where your information came from - and do you have any other information on the sisters?

Frances married John Jones in 1898

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1898
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
VOSE Frances A JONES John J West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_WD/170/183

and the 1905 marriage

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1905
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
VOSE Annie HEWITT Ernest Liverpool, Our Lady & St. Nicholas & St. Anne Liverpool 2053LP/91/171

have I missed someone posting this birth reg

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1881
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
VOSE Annie Prescot Prescot PRE/45/15

from freebmd this was Dec qtr so would not appear on 1881 census

If you are sure of that 1905 marriage Una, the best way forward would be to buy that certificate, otherwise you could end up tracing the wrong family. Vose was quite a common name in the area

Looks like one of the Annie Vose's at Prescot had another family member Alice on the 1891 census, she on the top of the census page on GR and I can't get back to the previous page to see the other family members - can anyone else check? On FMP she is transcribed as Annie Vose 1880 registration district Prescot.

Edit: forget this, the alice is her mother!