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Could anyone with access to the 1861 census please help me find this lady.

She would be living somewhere in Lancashire probably Burscough.

Her maiden name was Stephenson ,born the illegitimate daughter of Harriet Forshaw (nee Stephenson) in c1829 Burscough, Ormskirk, Lancashire.

Her first husband William Blackledge died in 1847 and she then had children by John Smith (Ann c1860, John c1863, James c1865)) but I haven't found a marriage.

Thanks, Mike

First name ???

Sorry. Ann.

It was on the title.

Mike.

Sorry, I'm confused. Which surname do you think she will be using in the 1861 census?

Kath. x

Probably Smith, but she used Forshaw again after her first husband Blackledge died.

Mike.

It 'could' be this one, but then, it could be many many others??

We REALLY do need some more info from you please Mike.

1861 England Census
about Ann Smith Name: Ann Smith
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Burscough, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Burscough
Ecclesiastical parish: Burscough Bridge St John
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: Scarisbrick
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
John Smith 38 .. Ag Lab
Ann Smith 37
Mary Smith 12
Thomas Smith 10
William Smith 8
Cicely Smith 7
Robert Smith 5
Ann Smith 2

at Bull & Dog Lane.

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2764; Folio: 78; Page: 3; GSU roll: 543025.

Can you post a later census for them?

Can you tell us more about John - his occupation perhaps?

Can you give us details of her on 1841 and 1851 and details of her first husband and any children please?

Thanks,

Dea x

I'm even more confused now!!

Are we looking for the lady called Ann who was born about 1860 or are we looking for Harriet born around 1829?

The one posted by Dea is for an Ann Smith with a mother called Ann. I would expect this to e wrong as you give her mother's name as Harriet.

EDIT - I see now. It was Ann born in c.1829.

Kath. x

Sorry Kath,

I read it as we are looking for Ann Stephenson, born c 1829, daughter of Harriet (who was a Forshaw, not a Stephenson)

This Ann married a Blackledge, he died and she then had children with John Smith.

One of these children was another Ann, born c 1860.

Am I correct here Mike??

This is why we need some more info from you please?

Dea x

1841/51 & 71 she lived at Moss Nook, Burscough

She had a son Henry Blackledge 1847 just before her first husband William died.

All I have on John Smith is that he was born in Burscough c1828

The census you have listed isn't her.

Thanks, Mike.

I'm confused too!!

How could her maiden name be Stephenson if she was illegitimate born by her mother Harriet Forshaw?

Ann's first marriage was in Ormskirk 1846 to William Blackledge.

Mike.

So this is Ann's first marriage:-

Name: Ann Forshaw
Year of Registration: 1846
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Ormskirk
County: Lancashire
Volume: 21
Page: 428

Spouse William Blackledge

Kath. x

Gael,

She used Forshaw again after her first husband died.

Technically, her maiden name was Stephenson as she was born to Harriet Stephenson 2 years before she married Henry Forshaw.

Mike.

Correct Kath.

They married on the 22nd of September 1846, but I can't find a record of her marrying John Smith c1859

Mike.

I am afraid I cannot see this marriage??

Could you post the reference please?

Thanks,

Dea x

Ahh - I have it now - thank you Kath!

Dea x

Marriages Sep 1846 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Blackledge William Ormskirk 21 428

I gave a quick free search of the 1851 and 1861 for Henry Blackledge to get a connection and only came up with a Henry 1845 in London.

Can I give a short summary/update here of what I'm looking for on the 1861 census:

John Smith bc1828 Burscough living/married to Ann Smith (or Blackledge or Forshaw) bc1829 Burscough.

Probably in the same household would be Henry Blackledge bc1847 Burscough and an Ann Smith bc1860 not sure where.

Thanks, Mike.

Hi Mike,

Somebody should be able to pull up the census for you.

Where's Leyland from Burscough? Do you think Henry had a twin ? Is it the same date as Henry's?

Name: George Blackledge
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 01 Oct 1847
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Andrews Church, Leyland, Lancashire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Blackledge
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ann Blackledge
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04215-7
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 93954
Reference Number: pg255 ln2048
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Gael FDU,

Leyland and Burscough are about 15 miles as the crow flies.

Henry was baptised at St John's Lathom, near Burscough on the 10th October 1847.

Thanks, Mike.