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Still hoping that someone can find Henry and/or mother Ann in 1861 please.

Son Henry in 1881 with wife and family but where is he in 1861 ???


*** Henry BLACKLEDGE M Male 33 Burscough, Lancashire, England Farmer Of 62 Acres Employs 4 Lab

Ann J. BLACKLEDGE M Female 33 Burscough, Lancashire, England
Edmund BLACKLEDGE Male 7 Burscough, Lancashire, England Farmers Son
Ann BLACKLEDGE Female 8 Burscough, Lancashire, England Farmers Daur
Henry BLACKLEDGE Male 6 Burscough, Lancashire, England Farmers Son
John BLACKLEDGE Male 5 Burscough, Lancashire, England Farmers Son
William BLACKLEDGE Male 3 Burscough, Lancashire, England Farmers Son
James BLACKLEDGE Male 1 Burscough, Lancashire, England Farmers Son
William MARTLAND U Male 23 Burscough,

Dwelling Moss Nook
Census Place Scarisbrick, Lancashire, England

TO RECAP .............
Ann born Stephenson but assumed the surname Forshaw when her mother married.


Marriages Sep 1846
Blackledge William Ormskirk 21 428
Forshaw Ann Ormskirk 21 428

William died 1847


Ann then appears with John Smith ( assumed married but no wedding found)

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Household:
1881

John SMITH Head M Male 54 Burscough, Lancashire, England Farm Laborer
Ann SMITH Wife M Female 53 Burscough, Lancashire, England Wife
John SMITH Son U Male 18 Burscough, Lancashire, England Farm Laborer
James SMITH Son U Male 16 Burscough, Lancashire, England Farm Laborer
Ann SMITH Daur U Female 21 Burscough, Lancashire, England General Servant
Thomas ASHTON Nephew U Male 16 Burscough, Lancashire, England Farm Laborer


Dwelling Sheepcote Hills
Census Place Scarisbrick, Lancashire, England

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1841 -Moss Nook, Burscough as Ann Forshaw
1851 - Moss Nook, Burscough as Ann Forshaw
1861 - ?
1871 - Moss Nook, Burscough as Ann Smith
1881 - Sheepcote Mills, Scarisbrick. as Ann Smith
1891 - Elm Villa, Hilderthorpe, Bridlington, Yorkshire.

I could only find one marriage in 1867 for a John Smith and Ann Forshaw, but she was born 1842 and he 1835. Her father was Robert Forshaw so that rules that one out.

Edit: - so close to the christening....

Gael FDU,

Leyland and Burscough are about 15 miles as the crow flies.

Henry was baptised at St John's Lathom, near Burscough on the 10th October 1847.

Thanks, Mike.

Hi Mike,

Somebody should be able to pull up the census for you.

Where's Leyland from Burscough? Do you think Henry had a twin ? Is it the same date as Henry's?

Name: George Blackledge
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 01 Oct 1847
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Andrews Church, Leyland, Lancashire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Blackledge
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ann Blackledge
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04215-7
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 93954
Reference Number: pg255 ln2048
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Can I give a short summary/update here of what I'm looking for on the 1861 census:

John Smith bc1828 Burscough living/married to Ann Smith (or Blackledge or Forshaw) bc1829 Burscough.

Probably in the same household would be Henry Blackledge bc1847 Burscough and an Ann Smith bc1860 not sure where.

Thanks, Mike.

I gave a quick free search of the 1851 and 1861 for Henry Blackledge to get a connection and only came up with a Henry 1845 in London.

Marriages Sep 1846 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Blackledge William Ormskirk 21 428

I am afraid I cannot see this marriage??

Could you post the reference please?

Thanks,

Dea x

Ahh - I have it now - thank you Kath!

Dea x

Correct Kath.

They married on the 22nd of September 1846, but I can't find a record of her marrying John Smith c1859

Mike.

Gael,

She used Forshaw again after her first husband died.

Technically, her maiden name was Stephenson as she was born to Harriet Stephenson 2 years before she married Henry Forshaw.

Mike.

So this is Ann's first marriage:-

Name: Ann Forshaw
Year of Registration: 1846
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Ormskirk
County: Lancashire
Volume: 21
Page: 428

Spouse William Blackledge

Kath. x

Ann's first marriage was in Ormskirk 1846 to William Blackledge.

Mike.

I'm confused too!!

How could her maiden name be Stephenson if she was illegitimate born by her mother Harriet Forshaw?

1841/51 & 71 she lived at Moss Nook, Burscough

She had a son Henry Blackledge 1847 just before her first husband William died.

All I have on John Smith is that he was born in Burscough c1828

The census you have listed isn't her.

Thanks, Mike.

Sorry Kath,

I read it as we are looking for Ann Stephenson, born c 1829, daughter of Harriet (who was a Forshaw, not a Stephenson)

This Ann married a Blackledge, he died and she then had children with John Smith.

One of these children was another Ann, born c 1860.

Am I correct here Mike??

This is why we need some more info from you please?

Dea x

I'm even more confused now!!

Are we looking for the lady called Ann who was born about 1860 or are we looking for Harriet born around 1829?

The one posted by Dea is for an Ann Smith with a mother called Ann. I would expect this to e wrong as you give her mother's name as Harriet.

EDIT - I see now. It was Ann born in c.1829.

Kath. x

It 'could' be this one, but then, it could be many many others??

We REALLY do need some more info from you please Mike.

1861 England Census
about Ann Smith Name: Ann Smith
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Burscough, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Burscough
Ecclesiastical parish: Burscough Bridge St John
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: Scarisbrick
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
John Smith 38 .. Ag Lab
Ann Smith 37
Mary Smith 12
Thomas Smith 10
William Smith 8
Cicely Smith 7
Robert Smith 5
Ann Smith 2

at Bull & Dog Lane.

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2764; Folio: 78; Page: 3; GSU roll: 543025.

Can you post a later census for them?

Can you tell us more about John - his occupation perhaps?

Can you give us details of her on 1841 and 1851 and details of her first husband and any children please?

Thanks,

Dea x

Probably Smith, but she used Forshaw again after her first husband Blackledge died.

Mike.