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Emma
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6 Sep 2010 10:07 |
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Kate Riley married George Charles Rutherford 16 August 1902
Father John Riley (deceased at time of marriage)
George Charles rutherford - Father Harry Rutherford
Both lived Herne Hill - I have a marriage certicate
I am looking for Charles George rutherford son of Charles and Susannah nee Amery
If any one would like more info from the certificate please contact me
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6 Sep 2010 10:40 |
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How does the 1902 marriage connect with the other people?
What exactly are you looking for? Your posting is rather unclear
Dates for the second group of people are essential
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6 Sep 2010 10:41 |
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Right - for some clues..........
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Marriages Mar 1874 (>99%)
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AMERY Susannah Emma St.Olave 1d 266
Field Maria St. Olave 1d 266
Hunt John St. Olave 1d 266
Rutherford Charles St Olave 1d 2
Now please explain your posting.................so that we can try to help you
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6 Sep 2010 10:48 |
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1881
Name: Charles Rutherford
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Susannah Rutherford
Gender: Male
Where born: Deptford, Kent, England
Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 7 Reginald Road
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Bricklayer
Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Rutherford 28
Susannah Rutherford 25
Emma Rutherford 6
Charles Rutherford 4
Elizabeth Rutherford 2
Charlotte Rutherford
George Amery 9
Charlotte Marriott 39
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6 Sep 2010 10:49 |
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1891
Name: Charles Rutherford
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Susannah Rutherford
Gender: Male
Where born: Deptford, Kent, England
Civil parish: St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks
Town: Deptford
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Rutherford 38
Susannah Rutherford 35
Charles Rutherford 15 born DEPTFORD
Elizabeth Rutherford 14
Charlotte Rutherford 12
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6 Sep 2010 10:51 |
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1901
Name: Charles Rutherford
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Susan E Rutherford
Gender: Male
Where born: Deptford, Kent, England
Civil parish: Woking
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Guildford
Sub-registration district: Woking
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 154
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Rutherford 47
Susan E Rutherford 44
Louisa Marshall 54
Caroline Jones 75
Herbert Frapwell 23
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6 Sep 2010 10:52 |
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Extra info for the marriage:-
Name: Charles Rutherford
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Occupation: Bricklayer
Spouse Name: Susannah Emma Amery
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Feb 1874
Parish: All Saints, Rotherhithe
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Charles Rutherford
Occupation: Bricklayer
Spouse Father Name: George Amery
Occupation: Shoemaker
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6 Sep 2010 10:53 |
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Charles jnr does not appear on 1901, unless he gave inaccurate birthplace info
Nor is he on 1911, as far as I can see
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6 Sep 2010 10:57 |
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1911 for the parents
Person: RUTHERFORD, Charles
Address: 7 Malpas Road S E
Cost:
You will be charged 10 credits for a transcript and 30 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.
RUTHERFORD, Charles Head Married M 57 1854 Bricklayer England N K VIEW
RUTHERFORD, Susannah Wife Married
35 years F 54 1857 England N K VIEW
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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2655 Reference:
RG14PN2655 RD28 SD3 ED14 SN120
FOUR children born in marriage - ONE has died
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Flick
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6 Sep 2010 11:02 |
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Where did you get the 'info' about the second forename for "Charles George"?
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Catherine
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6 Sep 2010 11:33 |
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There is a birth in Kent that would fit Charles Jnr.:-
Births Mar 1877 (>99%)
Rutherford Charles George Greenwich 1d 921
(reg.dist. for Deptford)
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Catherine
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6 Sep 2010 11:51 |
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You say that the father of George Charles Rutherford that married Kate Riley in 1902 was Harry and they lived in Herne Hill.
There is this on 1901 census which would fit with this info?
Name: George C A Rutherford
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry J Rutherford
Mother's Name: Charlotte H Rutherford
Gender: Male
Where born: Herne Hill, London, England
Civil parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 81 Dulwich Road
Occupation: Railway Porter
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 338
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry J Rutherford 51 born: Herne Hill, London (Carman)
Charlotte H Rutherford 49 born: Lambeth
George C A Rutherford 19
Eliza G Rutherford 19 born: Herne Hill, London
Dorothy Rutherford 3 -despite the age difference she is noted as daughter born: Herne Hill, London
..........would this fit with the info on the marriage cert.?
EDIT:- baptism for above:-
Name: George Charles Alexander Rutherford
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 30 Mar 1884
Father's Name: Henry John Rutherford
Occupation: Carman
Mother's Name: Charlotte Hannah Rutherford
Parish: St Jude, East Brixton
Borough: Lambeth
County: Middlesex
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6 Sep 2010 11:55 |
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I suspect that we may be talking to ourselves here, Catherine.................even though Emma is practically a founder member of GR!
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Catherine
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6 Sep 2010 12:07 |
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I think you may be right, Flick. I'm just at a bit of a loss to see how these two families fit together. Don't like loose ends so it would be nice to know!
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6 Sep 2010 13:51 |
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I rather think that Emma's flying a kite on this...........not working through records systematically
My reading of the request (for what it's worth) is that Emma is trying to find a marriage for the son of Charles & Susannah, and obtained the 1902 cert, and has found that the father's name is not what she expected...............
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Emma
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9 Sep 2010 12:02 |
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Hello,
I am so sorry my message was clear -
I was actually looking for Charles George rutherford brother
to my g/m Emma Rutherford daughter of Charles rutherford and Susannah nee Amery Rutherford and came across George Charles thinking it may be Emma's brother
but when the marriage cert came it was not just thought it may help other members
Children to Charles and Susannah are as follows
Have info on Emma Rutherford b 1875 - my grandmother died Western Australia 1917
No Information about Charles George rutherford b abt 1876/7 on 1891 listed as Charles (no george mentioned)
Not sure if he married, died or where he is?
Have info I have found Charlotte Amery Rutherford Marriage although not her death date or where B 1881
No Information about Elizabeth Rutherford b 1879 not sure if she married or died?
Once again I am sorry for the confusion - the 1902 marriage information is for anyone who may be related to the person
Kind regards Emma
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Emma
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9 Sep 2010 12:14 |
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Dear Catherine,
This is the Charles George rutherford Greenwich I am looking for - not the George Charles Rutherford - Kate Riley obtained the marriage cert hoping it was my Charles George but was wrong just wanted to pass on the information for anyone who is looking for this family Sorry
CAN ANYONE HELP ME FIND MY CHARLES GEORGE RUTHFORD IS HE DEAD? AND HIS SISTER ELIZABETH RUTHERFORD NOT SURE IF SHE WAS MARRIED OR DIED
MANY THAINKS EMMA
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Emma
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9 Sep 2010 12:17 |
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I am most grateful for your assistance and so sorry for the mix up - I have posted more info I am not sure as to whether or not I have to add to each message
I would appreciate any assistance you can give -
Thank you Emma
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9 Sep 2010 13:29 |
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OK Emma, let's start again............
1881 census
Charles RUTHERFORD Head M Male 28 Deptford, Kent, England Bricklayer
Susannah RUTHERFORD Wife M Female 25 Deptford, Kent, England
Emma RUTHERFORD Daughter Female 6 Deptford, Kent, England Scholar
Charles RUTHERFORD Son Male 4 Deptford, Kent, England Scholar
Elizabeth RUTHERFORD Daughter Female 2 Deptford, Kent, England
Charlotte RUTHERFORD Daughter Female 2 m Deptford, Kent, England
George AMERY Visitor Male 9 Scholar
Charlotte MARRIOTT Lodger U Female 39 Deptford, Kent, England Charwoman
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Source Information:
Dwelling 7 Reginald Road
Census Place Deptford St Paul, Kent, England
Family History Library Film 1341164
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0701 / 54
Page Number 16
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9 Sep 2010 13:35 |
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1891
Name: Susannah Rutherford
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Charles Rutherford
Gender: Female
Where born: Deptford, Kent, England
Civil parish: St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks
Town: Deptford
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Rutherford 38
Susannah Rutherford 35
Charles Rutherford 15
Elizabeth Rutherford 14
Charlotte Rutherford 12
By 1901, none of the children are living with the parents...........
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