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Cathy's posted 1891, but I think next door is maybe relevant, too:

1891 England Census
Civil parish: Sutton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: St Helens
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 20 Clarence St
Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 30

Wm Burker 33 Rainhill, Lancashire, England Head M Coblier
Mary Burker 31 St Helens, Lancashire, England Wife M
James Burker 2 St Helens, Lancashire, England Son
Margt Burker 1 St Helens, Lancashire, England Daughter

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3025; Folio 70; Page 32; GSU roll: 6098135.
[It's not clear if name is Burke or Burker - it really does say Coblier - I'm thinking Collier, rather than cobbler]


Births Dec 1887 (>99%)
Stringfellow Kate Ellen Prescot 8b 713
[Image confirms this entry - NB 3q before Dea's marr]

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1888
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BURKE Thomas STRINGFELLOW Ellen Prescot Register Office or Registrar Attended Prescot R/41/192
[So either a Rego Office marr, or a non-conformist/RC marr]


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1887
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SPRINGFELLOW Kate E St Helens St Helens SH/169/53
[Looks like a mistranscription at LancsBMD - I'll get it checked]

So did she take her dad's name, or her step-dad's?
I'm inclined towards the former, but really who knows?

1881 census - household transcription
Person: STRINGFELLOW, Joshua
Address: 23, 1/2 Greenough St, Sutton

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STRINGFELLOW, Joshua Head Married M 42 1839 Coal Miner
Sutton Lancashire
STRINGFELLOW, Elizabeth Wife Married F 40 1841 Coal Miner
Rainhill Lancashire
STRINGFELLOW, John Son Single M 22 1859 Coal Miner
Sutton Lancashire
STRINGFELLOW, Thomas Son Single M 17 1864 Coal Miner
Sutton Lancashire
STRINGFELLOW, Ellen Daughter Single F 13 1868 Scholar
Sutton Lancashire
STRINGFELLOW, James Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Sutton Lancashire
STRINGFELLOW, Joshua Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar
Sutton Lancashire
STRINGFELLOW, Jane Daughter Single F 2 1879
Sutton Lancashire

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
3739 Folio:
47 Page:
45

Registration District:
Prescot Sub District:
St Helens Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Sutton Municipal Borough:
Address:
23, 1/2 Greenough St, Sutton County:
Lancashire

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BURKE, Thomas
Address: 26 Carter St St Helens
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BURKE, Thomas Head Married M 44 1867 Glass Beveller Lancs St Helens
BURKE, Ellen Wife Married
23 years F 44 1867 Lancs St Helens
BURKE, Mary Daughter Single F 21 1890 Rug Maker Lancs St Helens
BURKE, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 19 1892 Rug Maker Lancs St Helens
BURKE, John Son Single M 16 1895 General Labourer Lancs St Helens
BURKE, Winefride Daughter F 12 1899 School Lancs St Helens
BURKE, Agnes Daughter F 10 1901 School Lancs St Helens
BURKE, Thomas Son M 4 1907 Lancs St Helens
BURKE, William Son M 1 1910 Lancs St Helens

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22793 Reference:
RG14PN22793 RG78PN1333 RD456 SD5 ED39 SN174

Registration District:
Prescot Sub District:
St Helens Enumeration District:
39 Parish:
St Helens

1891 census - household transcription
Person: BURKE, Kate
Address: 18, Clarence Street, Sutton, St Helens
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BURKE, Thos Head Married M 24 1867 Packer Labourer
St Helens Lancashire
BURKE, Ellen Wife Married F 23 1868
St Helens Lancashire
BURKE, Kate Daughter F 3 1888
St Helens Lancashire
BURKE, Mary Daughter F 1 1890
St Helens Lancashire
OWEN, Ellen Visitor Single F 18 1873 General Servant Domestic
St Helens Lancashire

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3025 Folio:
70 Page:
32

Registration District:
Prescot Sub District:
St Helens Enumeration District:
30 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Holy Trinity

1901 census - household transcription
Person: BURKE, Catherine
Address: 18, Clarance Street, St Helens
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BURKE, Thomas Head Married M 34 1867 Glass Beveller
St Helens Lancashire
BURKE, Ellen Wife Married F 34 1867
St Helens Lancashire
BURKE, Catherine Daughter F 13 1888
St Helens Lancashire
BURKE, Mary Daughter F 11 1890
St Helens Lancashire
BURKE, Elizabeth E Daughter F 9 1892
St Helens Lancashire
BURKE, John Son M 5 1896
St Helens Lancashire
BURKE, Winifred Daughter F 2 1899
St Helens Lancashire
BURKE, Agnes Daughter F 0 (2 MOS) 1901
St Helens Lancashire

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3526 Folio:
34 Page:
60

Registration District:
Prescot Sub District:
St Helens Enumeration District:
43 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Holy Trinity Parr Mount

Civil Parish:
St Helens Municipal Borough:

Name: John McBride
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Prescot
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 728

Name: Peter Mcbride
Death Registration Month/Year: 1931
Age at death (estimated): 43
Registration district: Prescot
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 857


Name: Catherine Mcbride
Death Registration Month/Year: 1924
Age at death (estimated): 37
Registration district: Prescot
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 705

I know Dea, it's too much of a coincidence! All this time I've been looking for a Stringfellow...

Thanks again one and all for your help!

Best wishes

John.

The Catherine Burke marriage MUST be the one ???

It is a strange coincidence the 'her' mothers maiden name was Stringfellow!

Parent's marriage:

Marriages Jun 1888

***Burke Thomas Prescot 8b 950
ROURKE Maggie Prescot 8b 950
***STRINGFELLOW Ellen Prescot 8b 950
WHITTLE James Prescot 8b 950

Perhaps when they registered the birth the registrar looked at Catherine and said 'mothers maiden name'??? - Stranger things have happened.

Dea x

Hi mgnv, I did try Ireland but there were no results for Stringfellows at all. However I couldn't find any sites for Scotland so Scotland is a possibility.

AoGG - the location's in the initial post - namely Prescot RD. John was right in his guess - the birth was rego'ed in the St Helens subdistrict of Prescot.

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1915
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
MCBRIDE Peter St Helens St Helens SH/337/70

Les suggests they weren't married.
If you click on the page # link for your hit at FreeBMD, then what you should see is another entry on that page for
Stringfellow Peter Stringfellow Prescot 8b
but that's not there. (In this case, the index is one of the 10 quarters thru 1932 that aren't completely transcribed - just 97-99% done - the completion rate for this quarter is 99% - again in initial post, so John should really look up "stringfellow" births, click on the image link, and see that this page looks like it's been done, so not in the incomplete 1%.) We don't know that the parents were wed, but that's what the registrar was told. If they weren't, then there's no hope of finding their names from a m.rego, so one would need to get their names from a b.cert. This is the only McBride-Stringfellow b.rego on FreeBMD 1911-1921.

There are a couple of other possibilities one would need Peter's b,cert for. It might show his mum was Mary McBride late Smith formerly Stringfellow, so we'ld need to look for the marr of McBride to the widow Mary Smith, and also the marr of Smith to Mary Stringfellow. Once we know his dad is, say, Donald McBride, we can try and find him on the 1911. Especially with a name like McBride, one can't discount a non-English UK marr, so maybe you'ld need to check Ireland or Scotland too.

Hi Dea + Cathy, I'm fairly sure I've got the right birth reference, not 100% though. Unfortunately I know nothing about Peter's parents or of any brothers and sisters.
I must admit though that the census records for the McBride family is very tempting. In fact I've just had a quick look for Catherine Burke on Free BMD/Ancestry and HER Mothers maiden name was Stringfellow!! Could that be a mistake by the registrar?

Not a Stringfellow unfortunately!

Name: Catherine Burke
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Prescot
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 1061

Cathy - the 1911 census you have posted is one I have been looking at but this is the marriage to match:

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1910
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MCBRIDE Peter BURKE Catherine Prescot Register Office or Registrar Attended Prescot R/84/121

Dea x

Are you absolutely certain that you have the correct birth reference?

Did Peter have any brothers or sisters??

Do you know anything about his parents?

Dea x

I know it's just a longshot but.....

1911 census - household transcription
Person: MCBRIDE, Peter
Address: 5 Clarence Court St Helens
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MCBRIDE, Peter Head Married M 23 1888 Coal Miner Hewers Filler Lanc St Helens VIEW
MCBRIDE, Catherine Wife Married
2 years F 23 1888 House Wife Lanc St Helens VIEW
MCBRIDE, Ellen Daughter F 2 1909 Lanc St Helens VIEW
MCBRIDE, John Son M 0 (4 WEEK) 1911 Lanc St Helens VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22793 Reference:
RG14PN22793 RG78PN1333 RD456 SD5 ED39 SN154

Registration District:
Prescot Sub District:
St Helens Enumeration District:
39 Parish:
St Helens

I think you're right Les, I'll apply for the certificate when I get paid next... Thanks for all your help everyone

It has been known John. I have a couple in my tree that never married but because he acknowledged the Children his Surname was given.

Les

Hi, I've tried Mcbride and McBryde but not MacBride

Unfortunately Ann I don't know where the marriage was possibly St. Helens, although as Les has pointed out they may not have married (didn't think of that.)