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JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 27 Aug 2010 22:50

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=getHistIdxSearchCriteria

Searching just for the name James Driver:

"You may view 22 matching records as 2 separate pages.
Each result page not previously viewed in this session will cost $ 0.99 to view."

It's cheap, but I ain't paying. ;)

I don't get any results when using James or Wilkinson or Jane for a parent's name, but they may not have been stated in records.

Using the date range 1882-1884, there are two results. One result for 1883 specifically.

There are 4 marriages, but I don't know when.

What I'd do, if I were you, is just get the 2 pages of search results for all James Driver entries in the records, for a total of $2 AUS (about 1 pound, I think), and see what you get.

You give credit card details when you click Continue from a search, set a limit, and then just pay as you go.


Now, the Aussies might still be able to find you more, like electoral roll info, so you might still try asking.


>>>> Actually -- just edit your first post in this thread.

Make the subject line what I said in the post above.

At the very beginning of your first post, just say "please see page 2 re Australia".

Then it's all here together.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 27 Aug 2010 22:42

Stupid me. Hold on.

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/CA2574F700805DE7/HomePage?ReadForm

...

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 27 Aug 2010 22:40

You want an Aussie for that job. Canucks are no good. ;) Actually, I'm good at NSW records, but the others I kind of haven't figured out. You do have to look in local death registers, not English "deaths abroad", and in Australia they're held by state (as in Canada by province), not nationally.

I recommend this -- and this is a good time because the Aussies will be waking up now.

Start a new thread -- yes, that's me saying start a new thread.

Call it

James Driver died 1883 Victoria Australia

Putting Australia in the subject line means they'll be sure to see it.

Give the info you have about him -- specifically, copy the baptism info:

JAMES DRIVER - parents James (Wilkinson) Driver and Jane
Christening: 06 NOV 1831 Keighley, Yorkshire, England

*And* -- *Give the link to this thread* -- copy and paste this in your new post:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1236943&px=1

That way if they need anything from here they can find it, and they won't go digging for things you already have.

I think that's the best way to tackle James, since he does hive off from the family when he goes to Australia.

The Aussies may be able to find a marriage, children, etc.

Anne

Anne Report 27 Aug 2010 21:45

Hi Janey its anne again I went to the cematory today and found all the drivers which you mentiond. I went to the office about the grave of James Wilkinson Driver who died in 1852 but he said it would be in the parish church at keighley. I have tried to find the death of James Driver born Sept 1831 he died in 1883 in Diamond hill sandhurst victoria australia. I wondered if he went there for the gold rush I have looked in all the deaths abroad but have hit a brick wall. I wondered if you could help me once more thanks. Anne p.s. It was written on the grave stone.

Anne

Anne Report 26 Aug 2010 21:21

Hi Janey thanks again for sorting me out. To answer your question the previous thread which was wrote in 2008 about Wilkinson Driver and Rebecca was my daughter Julie Anna Paton. At the time was doing family history but then got fed up. She is now working full time so is busy. I will now put the names on my family tree. Wilkinson Driver was my great grandad. Anne

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 26 Aug 2010 21:11

Anne, for some reason you've replied to the first post in this thread ... and said nothing about all the info I added, including census info confirming the family composition.

Anne

Anne Report 26 Aug 2010 21:03

Hi Minnie I havent found their marriage yet but he was born sept 1786 his first child on the baptisim was Wilkinson Driver then it changed with his other children to James Wilkinson Driver. Tried to find them on the census 1841 but they havent come up yet, manged to find them on ancestry but arent a member now. Thanks Anne

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 25 Aug 2010 22:40

Cute, Michael. ;) I don't actually remember things that long ago, although some might suspect. In fact, I "JaneyCanuck" didn't even exist at that time! I did post that thread earlier in this one, though, in case it was of interest to Anne. The name seems to have been carried down and those people are undoubtedly related.

Mike *

Mike * Report 25 Aug 2010 22:30

Janey, I think maybe you remember this one about Wilkinson Driver, .... which wasn't Annes

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=608937

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 25 Aug 2010 22:24

1851

Name: James Driever
[James Driver]
Age: 67
Estimated birth year: abt 1784
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Keighley, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Keighley

Edward Driever 61
Sarah Driever 30
Hannah Driever 27
William Driever 25
James Driever 67


The name was corrected on August 17, 2010. Was this in connection with your searches here?

You still haven't answered my question, whether you had a previous thread about this. Would you?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 25 Aug 2010 22:21

If you get this death certificate (for the burial I posted earlier)

Deaths Sep 1852
Driver James Wilkinson Keighley 9a 118

it might have been signed by his wife or a child.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 25 Aug 2010 22:11

1841 census in Keighley

James Driver 50
Jane Driver 40
*Thomas Driver 20 <<<
Joseph Driver 20
*Isaac Driver 20
*John Driver 15
*Wilkinson Driver 11
*James Driver 9
*Ann Driver 7
*Mary Driver 5


The ones I've *ed are all good matches for names in the list of 8 baptisms (by name and age), plus there's a Thomas not too far off the right age (the way ages were rounded -- if he was not quite 25, as your Thomas was, he would show as 20).

Hmm, actually, now that I've finished *ing them, the only one who doesn't match in 1841 is Joseph!


and here's Joseph, I suspect -- Jenny is a variation of Jane:

JOSEPH DRIVER
Christening: 15 NOV 1818 Keighley, Yorkshire, England
Father: JAMES DRIVER
Mother: JENNY
Batch No.: C010682 (same batch)


So I think it makes sense and you have all the children now.

James was called Wilkinson on Thomas's baptism (their first child).

And Jane was called Jenny on Joseph's baptism (their second child).

After that, they got their names straight for the rest. ;)

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 25 Aug 2010 22:05

Sorry, Anne, but this is not making sense.

The eight children in question included this one:

WILKINSON DRIVER - Christening: 06 DEC 1829 Keighley, Yorkshire, England

but they were the children of James and Jane Driver. Possibly the James son of Betty.

The record I posted for Thomas Wilkinson Driver shows the parents as Wilkinson and Jane. *Possibly* that Wilkinson was really James Wilkinson.

But Thomas was born a decade before the eight children of James and Jane, so it does seem rather unlikely that he's a ninth child. ... One possibilitiy is that the father married twice, both times to a Jane -- which would not be unheard of -- and Thomas had a different mother.

You say "sombody else wrote they had nine children". ? Who, where?

Anne

Anne Report 25 Aug 2010 21:58

Hi Janey thanks for replying, sombody else wrote they had nine children. I found the baptism but it was in the name of Wilkinson Driver but all the others are james Wilkinson Driver. Maybe that one was a mistake. I found them all on the batch no CO10682. I think it could be the same family. what I was trying to find was jane and Wilkinsons marriage.
thanks again I hope you can understand me. Anne

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 25 Aug 2010 19:31

For info, a James Wilkinson Driver (son of Betty, likely) died in 1852:

Name: James Wilkinson Driver
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 28 Aug 1852
Burial Place: Keighley, York, England
Collection: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 25 Aug 2010 19:25

Hi Anne, the info here wasn't from me; several people have been trying to help. I just thought this wasn't the first post I'd seen about this. Is this the only post you have made about it?


The baptism record that shows only the mother's name would mean that the parents were not married.

Maybe you could give some info to help sort this out.

What is your connection to Thomas 1816? Can you give his children's names? His wife? Finding him in censuses would help place his birth.

Can you copy the baptism record you have for Thomas Wilkinson Driver 1816 Keighley? No one else seems to be finding it.

Oh, well, easily found at familysearch. ;)

THOMAS WILKINSON DRIVER
Christening: 17 NOV 1816 Keighley, Yorkshire, England
Father: WILKINSON DRIVER
Mother: JANE
Batch No.: C010682

No other baptisms with those parents are found.


So, starting over, Thomas is your person of interest, and you are looking for his parents?

Anne

Anne Report 25 Aug 2010 19:23

Hi Shirlock thanks a lot for the information you have given me why I could not find him is because I was looking for a Wilkinson Driver. I think he was illegitmate as it only mentions his mother Betty Driver. Will I be able to find their marriage in the parish church at Keighley. I dont know his wifes maiden name. Thanks again Anne

Anne

Anne Report 25 Aug 2010 19:16

Hi Janey thanks a lot for helping me, All along I have been looking for a wilkinson Driver not James Wilkinson Driver. I did find thomas Wilkinson Driver baptisim in 1816 in Keighely and his father was Wilkinson Driver. that threw me. Was James wilkinson Driver illegitmate as you just mention Betty Driver. Will I able to find his marrriage in Keighley at the parish church. That was the oldest church then. Thanks again. Anne

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 24 Aug 2010 20:43

Was this same query not posted already just in the last day or two? The name is 100% familiar. What happened to that thread, if so?


In any event, this very old thread may be of intrest to you:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=608937

1st October 2003 13:45
"hi there im trying to find out any information about wilkinson and rebbecca driver they came from bingley and had 8 children there names were bronte sara mable harold james thomas edgar ernest and lily if anyone knows of them please could you let me know thanks"

It's possible that poster could be reached through this system (by clicking on her name), if she still uses the same email account as then.

Someone here also has a Wilkinson Driver 1830 in their tree.

Shirlock

Shirlock Report 24 Aug 2010 20:05

These are off familysearch.org which is free to search.

all these children have the parents James and Jane Driver


1. ELIZABETH DRIVER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 02 SEP 1825 Keighley, Yorkshire, England

2. ANNE DRIVER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 15 DEC 1833 Keighley, Yorkshire, England

3. ISAAC DRIVER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 18 JAN 1821 Keighley, Yorkshire, England

4. JAMES DRIVER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 NOV 1831 Keighley, Yorkshire, England

5. MARY WILKINSON DRIVER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 23 OCT 1836 Keighley, Yorkshire, England

6. JOHN DRIVER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 DEC 1822 Keighley, Yorkshire, England

7. SAMUEL DRIVER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 28 OCT 1838 Keighley, Yorkshire, England

8. WILKINSON DRIVER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 DEC 1829 Keighley, Yorkshire, England

Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date




Bishop's transcripts for Keighley, 1600-1860
Authors Church of England. Parish Church of Keighley (Yorkshire) (Main Author)

Notes Microfilm of original records in the Borthwick Institute, York University York, and at the West Yorkshire Archive Service, Sheepscar, Leeds.
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High reduction (42x) microfilm. Use high magnification reader for film #1849341.