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Ozibird
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27 Aug 2010 02:37 |
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There is no surefire way unless you buy the marriage certificate (after 1 July 1837) or see the parish register.
However, if you find the couple on a census it is usually possible to work back and find the wife's maiden name on an unproven basis.
Look for the marriage by using the groom's name and the bride's first name at around about the date of the first child. (use freebmd.org). If nothing obvious comes up, spread your search wider.
For example on p1 of this thread, William in 1861 is married to Harriet, in 1871 he's married to Emma. By going to freebmd and using William's name, Emma's first name and the range 1861 to 1871, only one marriage comes up, and it's in the same reg'n district as the census.
If the surname you were searching was less unusual such as Smith or Taylor, then you would have more difficulty.
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27 Aug 2010 00:14 |
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ok so they are different , does anyone know how i can find maiden names of women who married into the family thanks for all the help
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25 Aug 2010 08:32 |
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In 1851 Sarah is recorded as 1 year old. Births Jun 1850 Faxon Sarah Shipston on S. 11 406
In 1861 Sophia is recorded as 7 years old, whereas Sarah would have been 11. Births Jun 1853 Foxon Sophia Shipston 6d 494
I believe these reg'ns fit, so the death you found may be correct.
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25 Aug 2010 04:00 |
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HI GUYS CAN YOU HELP CLARIFY THERE IS LISTED A SOPHIA FAXON ON THE 1861 CENSUS AND A SARAH FAXON ON THE 1851 CENSUS IS THIS THE SAME GIRL OR TWO SEPERATE GIRLS AS I FOUND A DEATH FOR SARAH IN 1857 ???? THANKS CLAIRE PS ANY ONE GOOT SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO TRACE FAMILLY BACK EARLIER (1700'S)
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19 Aug 2010 08:59 |
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1841 England Census Name: Lorahamah Faxon Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Gender: Female Civil parish: Chastleton Hundred: Chadlington County/Island: Oxfordshire Country: England Street Address: Chastleton
Occupation: F.S. (Female servant)
Registration district: Chipping Norton Sub-registration district: Chipping Norton Household Members: Name Age Jane Turner 30 [I think she may be a visitor to the Harbidges. See below.) Lorahamah Faxon 15 Louis Betteridge 18 - M.S. (Male Servant)
Actually this seems to be the main part of the household. Elizabeth Harbidge 60 - Head; Ind.; not born in county John Harbidge 30 - Farmer; not born in county Mary Harbidge 28 - not born in county Elizabeth Harbidge 3
There's only about 10km between Todenham & Chastleton.
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19 Aug 2010 08:36 |
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Found Richard & Ann in 1841. Still looking for Loruhannah. That's going to be a nightmare for mistranscription.
1841 England Census Name: Richard Fagan [mistranscribed] Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1798 Gender: Male Where born: Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Toddenham Hundred: Westminster (Upper Division) County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: None recorded
Occupation: Shoe m
Registration district: Shipston on Stour Sub-registration district: Moreton Household Members: Name Age Richard Fagan 43 Ann Fagan 45
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19 Aug 2010 08:15 |
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Mother perhaps.
1841 England Census Name: Phoebe Faxon Age: 70 Estimated birth year: abt 1771 Gender: Female Where born: Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Toddenham Hundred: Westminster (Upper Division) County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: None recorded
Occupation:None recorded
Registration district: Shipston on Stour Sub-registration district: Moreton Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Phoebe Faxon 70 John Faxon 35 - Ag lab
Both born in county.
Deaths Mar 1851 FAXON Phoebe Shipston on S 11 335
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19 Aug 2010 08:11 |
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This could be a brother or a cousin.
1851 England Census Name: Richard Faxon Age: 58 Estimated birth year: abt 1793 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Todenham, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Todenham County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: None recorded
Occupation: Shoemaker
Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Shipston On Stour Sub-registration district: Campden Household Members: Name Age Richard Faxon 58 Ann Faxon 58 - wife; Little Compton Lorapamak Faxon 25 - daughter [That is what the name looks like on the image.] Amos J Faxon 3 - grandson Caleb Faxon 1 - grandson
All others born Todenham.
I believe I posted this Ann before but now add unusual name. Notice they have the same page number, meaning their deaths were probably registered at the same time. Deaths Jun 1855 Faxon Ann Shipston 6d 316 Faxon Loruhannah Shipston 6d 316 Goodness me, fancy being saddled with this. No wonder she turned up her toes: Lo-ruhamah is the name of the first daughter of the prophet Hosea and his wife Gomer in the Book of Hosea (1:6-8) of the Tanakh. The name, which translates as "not pitied," is chosen by God as a sign of displeasure with the people of Israel for following other gods.
1861 England Census Name: Richard Faron [mistranscription same as before] Age: 73 Estimated birth year: abt 1788 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Todenham, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Todenham County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: None recorded
Occupation: Cordwainer [shoemaker]
Condition as to marriage: widowed
Registration district: Shipston On Stour Sub-registration district: Moreton Household Members: Name Age Richard Faron 73
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19 Aug 2010 08:06 |
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Astra is right. When you see the image it is no wonder it was mistranscribed as Faron.
Ozi
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19 Aug 2010 07:22 |
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The name Faron appears to be a mis-transcription by Ancestry.
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19 Aug 2010 02:15 |
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HI GUYS THIS INFO IS GREAT SO BY THE LOOKS OF IT FOR SOME REASON THEY HAVE CHANGED THEIR NAME TO FARON INSTEAD OF FAXON IS THIS HARRIETS MAIDEN NAME BY ANY CHANCE NOW I CAN TRY TO FIND THE REST OF THE FAXON CLAN AND MAYBE SEE IF I CAN GO ANY FURTHER BACK ANY HELP IS MUCH APPRECIATED THANKS ALL CLAIRE
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18 Aug 2010 09:28 |
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??? I can't find Ann after 1851 and there doesn't seem to be a marriage for her. Also there is a younger Ann in 1861, probably ...
Deaths Dec 1853 Faxon Ann Shipston 6d 332 Deaths Jun 1855 Faxon Ann Shipston 6d 316
Younger Ann: Deaths Jun 1861 Faxon Ann Shipston 6d 331
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18 Aug 2010 09:16 |
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Deaths Jun 1857 Faxon Sarah Shipston on S. 6d 313
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18 Aug 2010 09:14 |
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Marriages Sep 1864 Faxon Elizabeth Shipston 6d 785 Hall Henry Shipston 6d 785
1871 England Census Name: Elizabeth Hall Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Henry Gender: Female Where born: Todenham, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Stretton On The Foss Ecclesiastical parish: Worcester County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England
Registration district: Shipston On Stour Sub-registration district: Moreton Household Members: Name Age Henry Hall 28 - Ag lab; Blockley, Worcestershire Elizabeth Hall 28 Ann M Hall 5 - Blockley, Worcestershire George W Hall 2 - Honington, Worcestershire
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Ozibird
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18 Aug 2010 06:38 |
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Oh My Goodness!
Marriages Mar 1873 FAXON Sophia Warwick 6d 631 Huckvale Charles Warwick 6d 631
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18 Aug 2010 06:37 |
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Marriages Dec 1861 Clark Frederick John Warwick 6d 719 Faxon Esther Warwick 6d 719 <<<<< Huckvale David Warwick 6d 719 <<<<< Lane Ann Warwick 6d 719
1871 England Census Name: Ether Farnon Huckvale [Esther Faxon Huckvale on image.] Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: David Gender: Female Where born: Todenham, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Barford County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address: Keytes Lane
Registration district: Warwick Sub-registration district: Warwick Household Members: Name Age David Huckvale 36 - domestic servant; Burmington, Warwickshire Ether Farnon Huckvale 32 John Huckvale 8 - Milcomb, Oxfordshire Edith Ann Huckvale 6 - Wellesbourne, Warwickshire Emily Huckvale 4 - Radway, Warwickshire Ann Huckvale 2 - Barford, Warwickshire Mary Ellen Huckvale 1 month - Barford, Warwickshire
Also, previous household: 1871 England Census Name: William Faxon Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth Allen Gender: Male Where born: Todenham, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Barford County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England
Registration district: Warwick Sub-registration district: Warwick Household Members: Name Age William Faxon 25 Elizabeth Allen Faxon 21 John William Faxon 7 months
Marriages Sep 1869 ALLEN Elizabeth Shipston 6d 775 Faxon William Josiah Shipston 6d 775
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18 Aug 2010 06:19 |
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Marriages Sep 1876 Betterton Emma Shipston 6d 923 CUMMINGS William Shipston 6d 923 <<<<< Faxon Caroline Shipston 6d 923 <<<<< Hookham Joseph Shipston 6d 923
1881 England Census Name: Caroline Cummins Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: William Gender: Female Where born: Todenham, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Todenham County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Shipston On Stour Sub-registration district: Moreton Household Members: Name Age William Cummins 59 Caroline Cummins 42 Thomas Cummins 4
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18 Aug 2010 06:15 |
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1891 England Census Name: Emma Faxon Age: 65 Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Todenham, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Todenham Ecclesiastical parish: Todenham Town: Todenham County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: Todenham
Occupation: none recorded
Condition as to marriage: widow
Registration district: Shipston On Stour Sub-registration district: Shipston on Stour Household Members: Name Age Emma Faxon 65
Deaths Jun 1883 FAXON William 73 Shipston 6d 401
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18 Aug 2010 06:14 |
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1881 England Census Name: William Faxon Age: 67 Estimated birth year: abt 1814 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Todenham, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Todenham County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: None recorded
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Ag Lab
Registration district: Shipston On Stour Sub-registration district: Moreton ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Faxon 67 Emma Faxon 54 - Charwoman
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18 Aug 2010 06:12 |
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???? Deaths Mar 1864 FAXON Harriett Shipston 6d 432
Marriages Dec 1864 FASCON William Shipston 6d 951 FAXON William Shipston 6d 951 MANDER Emma Shipston 6d 951 Shepard Edward Shipston 6d 951 Webb Elizabeth Shipston 6d 951
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