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Anita
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12 Aug 2010 16:40 |
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Hello Janey I feel a bit of a fool there are so many things to check like cdn & Aus white pages but to be honest i've never heard of them or being able to check electoral roll.
I think i need a crash course before i post anymore lol
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Anita
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12 Aug 2010 16:35 |
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Hello Lady Kira
I did think the German link might have caused them problems. I have a cousin in South Shields she is going to collect the marrige certificate for me.
Thank you Anita
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LadyKira
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11 Aug 2010 22:58 |
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Elspeth died in Coventry. Could be worth getting someone to check the electoral Rolls.
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JaneyCanuck
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11 Aug 2010 22:54 |
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Did we have this? I don't know how I missed it before ...
Name: Elspeth W Tewaag Death Registration Month/Year: 1965 Age at death (estimated): 79 = dob c1886 Registration district: Coventry Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 9c Page: 784
Perhaps that's where your info about her DOB came from Anita?
No name change, so it does suggest Charles died elsewhere.
Urgh, yes we did, LK posted it. Well this way I can see it. ;)
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JaneyCanuck
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11 Aug 2010 22:27 |
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Oh, and I did check the Cdn and Aus white pages on line, no Tewaag in either country. Not surprising anyway, if their only child was a girl. ;)
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JaneyCanuck
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11 Aug 2010 22:20 |
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LK --
LadyKira Today at 21:18 I would have thought this one a little old.
CARL RICHARD TEWAAG Birth: Christening: 18 OCT 1867 Evangelisch, Herdecke, Westfalen, Preussen Father: RICHARD TEWAAG Mother: ELISE FALK Batch No.: C966696
(I've deleted the bumph)
-- I think that one looks excellent! - edit - and it matches the dob on Astra's passenger list records.
Anita, you need to get the marriage certificate to see what age it gives for Charles and whether it states a father's name. That would tell you whether the birth above is a match.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
I haven't quite sorted through all those comings and goings -- but I'm wondering whether he might have anglicized his surname too, later, because of anti-German sentiment.
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Anita
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11 Aug 2010 22:16 |
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Thank you janey that would be really good of you
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Anita
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11 Aug 2010 22:05 |
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To Everyone that has helped me looking for Tewagg and giving me useful hints on what to do and what not to do, I would like to thank you all for your genorosity with there time anf patience, Its been a learning curve for me and i do apologise for any inconveiece I caused.
Thank you Best wishes
Anita
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JaneyCanuck
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11 Aug 2010 22:02 |
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Oh, I just caught the bit about the duplicate post. Urgh. I hope that one has shut up shop now.
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JaneyCanuck
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11 Aug 2010 21:59 |
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Astra, I did look at Ancestry too, and I see the Thomas Tewaag. I would have thought they just imported the database from FreeBMD (because that is where the data at Ancestry to 1915 comes from). Possibly there was an error at FreeBMD initially (skipped line by the transcriber, that sort of thing) and the correction hasn't made its way to Ancestry.
Anita, you can go to FreeBMD and add "postems" to the two names in that marriage, and the child's birth, so anyone else who searches for them will find you. Many of us do that regularly.
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
If you subscribe to Ancestry you can also correct that "Thomas". If you don't, one of us would be happy to. I'd suggest that you PM someone (like ... me, I'll volunteer) your email address (an anonymous permanent online one like at Gmail) and a correction can be made with that info, again so anyone else searching can contact you.
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JaneyCanuck
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11 Aug 2010 21:55 |
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Anita, I'm going to copy your PM here which I'm sure you won't mind. ;)
The easy way -- for both you and us -- is to reply in the thread (the purple Reply button at the top). It makes it a lot easier for us to know what the topic is, although with a PM headed Tewaag, there wasn't much doubt!
I didn't do much at all, but I'm sure those who did have got equally lovely messages.
Hello Janey
Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into finding the information . It amazes me that people give so much time and effort and work so quickly on other peoples behalf.
Thank you Anita
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Astra
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11 Aug 2010 21:45 |
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Well evidently not otherwise it would be the same on Ancestry and it isn't. They have him as Thomas Tewaag as I have already explained.
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LadyKira
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11 Aug 2010 21:42 |
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http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1234651
tranferring info found so far
LadyKira Today at 21:38 Request review I wonder if this is her
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Mrs Elsie V Jeffrey Name: Mrs Elsie V Jeffrey Birth Date: abt 1891 Age: 46 Port of Departure: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Arrival Date: 25 Apr 1937 Port of Arrival: Hull, England Ports of Voyage: Sydney [Hobart] [Melbourne] [Durban] Ship Name: Port Hardy
Edit | Delete | Add LadyKira Today at 21:22 Request review She married Thomas not Charles according to Ancestry.
PreviewName: Elspeth Wilson Jeffrey Year of Registration: 1907 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: South Shields County: Durham, Tyne and Wear Volume: 10a
Elspeth Wilson Jeffrey 1907 South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear View Record
Thomas Tewaag 1907 South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear
BUT freebmd
Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%) JEFFREY Elspeth Wilson S. Shields 10a 1380 TEWAAG Charles Richards S. Shields 10a 1380
Edit | Delete | Add LadyKira Today at 21:20 Request review England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Elspeth W Tewaag Name: Elspeth W Tewaag Death Registration Month/Year: 1965 Age at death (estimated): 79 Registration district: Coventry Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 9c Page: 784
Edit | Delete | Add LadyKira Today at 21:18 Request review I would have thought this one a little old.
CARL RICHARD TEWAAG Pedigree Male
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Parents: Father: RICHARD TEWAAG Family Mother: ELISE FALK Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C966696 1859 - 1872 0583426 Film NONE
However I canot find anyone else of that name in england.
Edit | Delete | Add LadyKira Today at 21:07 Request review passenger transcript details Name: Julia TEWAAG Date of departure: 6 May 1931 Port of departure: Liverpool Passenger destination port: Montreal, Canada Passenger destination: Montreal, Canada
Date of Birth: 1901 (calculated from age) Age: 30 Marital status: Sex: Female Occupation: Lady's Maid Passenger recorded on: Page 8 of 16
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Ship: Official Number: Master's name: Steamship Line: Where bound: Square feet: Registered tonnage: Passengers on voyage: DUCHESS OF RICHMOND 160631 A Freer Canadian Pacific Montreal, Canada 10360 11815 389
Edit | Delete | Add LadyKira Today at 21:07 Request review passenger transcript details Name: Julia TEWAAG Date of departure: 2 September 1927 Port of departure: Southampton Passenger destination port: Quebec, Canada Passenger destination: Quebec, Canada
Date of Birth: 1907 (calculated from age) Age: 20 Marital status: Sex: Female Occupation: Domestic Passenger recorded on: Page 7 of 17
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Ship: Official Number: Master's name: Steamship Line: Where bound: Square feet: Registered tonnage: Passengers on voyage: EMPRESS OF FRANCE 136266 E Griffiths Canadian Pacific Quebec, Canada 6900 10059 577
Edit | Delete | Add LadyKira Today at 21:04 Request review
for ref 1911 census - household transcription Person: TEWAAG, Elsie Address: 44 Et Smithy St South Shields TEWAAG, Elsie Head Married 3 years F 27 1884 Australian Melbourne VIEW TEWAAG, Elspeth Julia Daughter F 3 1908
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LadyKira
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11 Aug 2010 21:40 |
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Oh no a duplicate post.
I have just spent ages on this on surname board.
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JaneyCanuck
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11 Aug 2010 21:36 |
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How it appears at FreeBMD which did the transcribing, I thought:
Marriages Jun 1907 JEFFREY Elspeth Wilson S. Shields 10a 1380 PURVIC Alethea Madeline S. Shields 10a 1380 TEWAAG Charles Richards S. Shields 10a 1380 WALKER John Lee S Shields 10a 138
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Astra
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11 Aug 2010 21:23 |
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If you look at the original image it is Charles Richard. Ancestry seem to have transcribed the name Thomas from the person above. There is only one Tewaag
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TootyFruity
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11 Aug 2010 21:15 |
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Are you sure Elspeth Wilson Jeffrey married Charles Tewaag as I have just found this on Ancestry
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PreviewName: Elspeth Wilson Jeffrey Year of Registration: 1907 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: South Shields County: Durham, Tyne and Wear Volume: 10a Take a look at the picture to see even more. See more =======Elspeth Wilson Jeffrey 1907 South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear View Record Alethea Madeline Purvic 1907 South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear View Record =======Thomas Tewaag 1907 South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear View Record
PreviewName: John Lee Walker Year of Registration: 1907 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: South Shields County: Durham, Tyne and Wear Volume: 10a Take a look at the picture to see even more. See more John Lee Walker 1907 South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear
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Astra
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11 Aug 2010 21:14 |
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Charles Tewaag>>>>>Again member of the crew but this one says he was German rather than just White. Arrival Date: 3 Jan 1912 Age: 42 Estimated birth year: 1870 Race/Nationality: German Ship Name: Willesden Port of Arrival: Bellingham, Washington Port of Departure: Vancouver, British Columbia Line: 18 Microfilm Roll Number: m1399_8
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Astra
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11 Aug 2010 21:11 |
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Charles Tewaag>>>>>He's part of the crew so he was a sailor Arrival Date: 2 Nov 1919 Birth Year: abt 1866 Age: 53 Gender: Male Ethnicity/RaceĀ/Nationality: White Port of Departure: Buenos Aires Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Cowanshannock
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Astra
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11 Aug 2010 21:11 |
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Julia Elspeth Tewaag Gender: Female Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1908 Birth Country: England Date of Arrival: 16 May 1931 Vessel: Duchess of Richmond Search Ship Database: View the 'Duchess of Richmond' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: Quebec Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Roll: T-14771
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