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i have an Elspeth Wilson Jeffrey [Elsie] c1886 born Australia, known as Elsie in the 1901 census living in South Shields. She married Charles Richard Tewaag in June 1907 they had a daughter Elspeth Julia born 1908, Elsie died 1965,

I can't find a birth or a death of Charles, I thought maybe he was born somewhere else and as he is'nt present on the 1911 census maybe he left his family and returned where he came from.

Any help would be a big help
Thank you
Anita

The name Tewaag does not sound particularly English or indeed from anywhere in the UK. The theory that he did not originate from within these shores is favourite I would say. Googling seems to indicate that most Tewaag's are of German descent.

A copy of his marriage certificate might reveal some clues such as his occupation and that of his father.

How is Elsie described in the 1911 census, Married or Widowed? Have you been able to follow her or her daughter forward in time?

Marriages Jun 1907

TEWAAG Charles Richards S. Shields 10a 1380


Do you know for certain this spelling of surname is correct?

TEWAAG, Elsie Head Married
3 years F 27 1884 Australian Melbourne VIEW
TEWAAG, Elspeth Julia Daughter F 3 1908 VIEW


Registration District:
South Shields Sub District:
South Shields Enumeration District:
12 Parish:
South Shields

Address:
44 Et Smithy St South Shields County:
Durham

Julia Elspeth Tewaag
Gender: Female
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1908
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 16 May 1931
Vessel: Duchess of Richmond
Search Ship Database: View the 'Duchess of Richmond' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14771

Charles Tewaag>>>>>He's part of the crew so he was a sailor
Arrival Date: 2 Nov 1919
Birth Year: abt 1866
Age: 53
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: White
Port of Departure: Buenos Aires
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Cowanshannock

Charles Tewaag>>>>>Again member of the crew but this one says he was German rather than just White.
Arrival Date: 3 Jan 1912
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: 1870
Race/Nationality: German
Ship Name: Willesden
Port of Arrival: Bellingham, Washington
Port of Departure: Vancouver, British Columbia
Line: 18
Microfilm Roll Number: m1399_8

Are you sure Elspeth Wilson Jeffrey married Charles Tewaag as I have just found this on Ancestry

Record

PreviewName: Elspeth Wilson Jeffrey
Year of Registration: 1907
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: South Shields
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Take a look at the picture to see even more.
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=======Elspeth Wilson Jeffrey 1907 South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear
View Record
Alethea Madeline Purvic 1907 South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear
View Record
=======Thomas Tewaag 1907 South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear
View Record

PreviewName: John Lee Walker
Year of Registration: 1907
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: South Shields
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Take a look at the picture to see even more.
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John Lee Walker 1907 South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear

If you look at the original image it is Charles Richard. Ancestry seem to have transcribed the name Thomas from the person above. There is only one Tewaag

How it appears at FreeBMD which did the transcribing, I thought:

Marriages Jun 1907
JEFFREY Elspeth Wilson S. Shields 10a 1380
PURVIC Alethea Madeline S. Shields 10a 1380
TEWAAG Charles Richards S. Shields 10a 1380
WALKER John Lee S Shields 10a 138

Oh no a duplicate post.

I have just spent ages on this on surname board.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1234651

tranferring info found so far


LadyKira Today at 21:38 Request review
I wonder if this is her

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Mrs Elsie V Jeffrey
Name: Mrs Elsie V Jeffrey
Birth Date: abt 1891
Age: 46
Port of Departure: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Arrival Date: 25 Apr 1937
Port of Arrival: Hull, England
Ports of Voyage: Sydney
[Hobart]
[Melbourne]
[Durban]
Ship Name: Port Hardy



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LadyKira Today at 21:22 Request review
She married Thomas not Charles according to Ancestry.

PreviewName: Elspeth Wilson Jeffrey
Year of Registration: 1907
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: South Shields
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a


Elspeth Wilson Jeffrey 1907 South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear
View Record

Thomas Tewaag 1907 South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear

BUT freebmd

Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%)
JEFFREY Elspeth Wilson S. Shields 10a 1380
TEWAAG Charles Richards S. Shields 10a 1380




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LadyKira Today at 21:20 Request review
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Elspeth W Tewaag
Name: Elspeth W Tewaag
Death Registration Month/Year: 1965
Age at death (estimated): 79
Registration district: Coventry
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 784



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LadyKira Today at 21:18 Request review
I would have thought this one a little old.

CARL RICHARD TEWAAG Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 18 OCT 1867 Evangelisch, Herdecke, Westfalen, Preussen

Parents:
Father: RICHARD TEWAAG Family
Mother: ELISE FALK
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C966696 1859 - 1872 0583426 Film NONE


However I canot find anyone else of that name in england.

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LadyKira Today at 21:07 Request review
passenger transcript details
Name: Julia TEWAAG
Date of departure: 6 May 1931
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Montreal, Canada
Passenger destination: Montreal, Canada

Date of Birth: 1901 (calculated from age)
Age: 30
Marital status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Lady's Maid
Passenger recorded on: Page 8 of 16




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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
DUCHESS OF RICHMOND
160631
A Freer
Canadian Pacific
Montreal, Canada
10360
11815
389





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LadyKira Today at 21:07 Request review
passenger transcript details
Name: Julia TEWAAG
Date of departure: 2 September 1927
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: Quebec, Canada
Passenger destination: Quebec, Canada

Date of Birth: 1907 (calculated from age)
Age: 20
Marital status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Domestic
Passenger recorded on: Page 7 of 17




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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
EMPRESS OF FRANCE
136266
E Griffiths
Canadian Pacific
Quebec, Canada
6900
10059
577



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LadyKira Today at 21:04 Request review

for ref
1911 census - household transcription
Person: TEWAAG, Elsie
Address: 44 Et Smithy St South Shields
TEWAAG, Elsie Head Married
3 years F 27 1884 Australian Melbourne VIEW
TEWAAG, Elspeth Julia Daughter F 3 1908

Well evidently not otherwise it would be the same on Ancestry and it isn't. They have him as Thomas Tewaag as I have already explained.

Anita, I'm going to copy your PM here which I'm sure you won't mind. ;)

The easy way -- for both you and us -- is to reply in the thread (the purple Reply button at the top). It makes it a lot easier for us to know what the topic is, although with a PM headed Tewaag, there wasn't much doubt!

I didn't do much at all, but I'm sure those who did have got equally lovely messages.



Hello Janey

Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into finding the information . It amazes me that people give so much time and effort and work so quickly on other peoples behalf.

Thank you
Anita

Astra, I did look at Ancestry too, and I see the Thomas Tewaag. I would have thought they just imported the database from FreeBMD (because that is where the data at Ancestry to 1915 comes from). Possibly there was an error at FreeBMD initially (skipped line by the transcriber, that sort of thing) and the correction hasn't made its way to Ancestry.

Anita, you can go to FreeBMD and add "postems" to the two names in that marriage, and the child's birth, so anyone else who searches for them will find you. Many of us do that regularly.

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

If you subscribe to Ancestry you can also correct that "Thomas". If you don't, one of us would be happy to. I'd suggest that you PM someone (like ... me, I'll volunteer) your email address (an anonymous permanent online one like at Gmail) and a correction can be made with that info, again so anyone else searching can contact you.

Oh, I just caught the bit about the duplicate post. Urgh. I hope that one has shut up shop now.

To Everyone that has helped me looking for Tewagg and giving me useful hints on what to do and what not to do, I would like to thank you all for your genorosity with there time anf patience, Its been a learning curve for me and i do apologise for any inconveiece I caused.

Thank you
Best wishes

Anita

Thank you janey that would be really good of you

LK --

LadyKira Today at 21:18
I would have thought this one a little old.

CARL RICHARD TEWAAG
Birth: Christening: 18 OCT 1867 Evangelisch, Herdecke, Westfalen, Preussen
Father: RICHARD TEWAAG
Mother: ELISE FALK
Batch No.: C966696

(I've deleted the bumph)

-- I think that one looks excellent! - edit - and it matches the dob on Astra's passenger list records.

Anita, you need to get the marriage certificate to see what age it gives for Charles and whether it states a father's name. That would tell you whether the birth above is a match.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

I haven't quite sorted through all those comings and goings -- but I'm wondering whether he might have anglicized his surname too, later, because of anti-German sentiment.

Oh, and I did check the Cdn and Aus white pages on line, no Tewaag in either country. Not surprising anyway, if their only child was a girl. ;)