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I was wondering if anyone maybe able to help me please.
My question is "If someone was in prison in 1911" would they of been on the Census? I have looked on the 1911 census for this person but cannot find them.
Also would anyone know which prison this person may of been in? The person in question is a woman from the Greenwich area.
Thank you for you time Ann.

Ann,

Yes they should be included. As for which prison I would not have a clue and I suppose the severity of the crime would also dictate as to which prison she would have been placed in.

If you need help with the 1911 please ask, as she just may have been mistranscribed.

ANNX

Yes she would have been on the census. Can't help you with which prison.

Have you googled for prisons in that area?


Ozi

The only one i can think of at the mo is Holloway

1911 census - household transcription

LOOK AT ORIGINAL ALICE IS ON SAME PAGE

Person: NORRIS, Rosina
Institution: Nazareth House Home For The Aged: Industrial School For B C Girls, NAZARETH HOUSE

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Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
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NORRIS, Rosina F 11 1900 Scholar London Lambeth VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6833 Reference:
RG14PN6833 RD128 SD1 ED33 SN1

Registration District:
Brentford Sub District:
Isleworth Enumeration District:
33 Parish:
Isleworth

Address:
Isleworth County:
Middlesex

Ann,
many thanks!!

So if the daughters were in a Home it makes me wonder if her mother was in prison around this time, Gosh how on earth would i be able to find this out?
Ann

Hi Ann,

Still trying to find the others, I would google that address and see what info you can find about the establishment, why people were taken there etc.

Annx

Maybe there would be notes on Rosina's school log recording the reason for her admittance?

Gwyn

Ann

Have a look at this its a bit about Nazareth House with some photos.....But is does say it was an orpanage

http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=9983

Julie and Gwyn thank you.

Julie i have looked on Nazareth House and on 1911 census thank you for that brilliant information the thing is i know that the daughters parents were still alive then, so why would they be in an orphanage? Strange!!
This really is becoming a hard one to work out {sorry to put this on you all}
Again many thanks in helping me.
Ann

Ann,

Do you have the family on the 1901, if so can you post the details

Ann

Ann these are them on the 1901 census

James Norris
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: E Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenwich, London, England

Civil parish: Greenwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich East
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 222
Household Members: Name Age
James Norris 25
E Alice Norris 24
Alice L Norris 4
Rosina D 3/12

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Ann, i know these are them in 1901 as i have checked the address and every thing tallys in. Ann

I must be going loopy! what is the address on 1901

Ann the address was 2 Glenforth Street, which is the same as James Norris born 1901 on his birth Certificate {James being James and Alice`s son}
James was born after the census was taken

what does the E stand for??


E Alice Norris



It could be that she is listed in the prison as Exxxx Norris



they wouldn't worry about which of her names she usually used



alternatively, she might just be listed under initials only.


Many prisoners and inmates were shown that way in earlier censuses to preserve their privacy .......... not sure if that applied in 1911




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Either FMP is going mad or I am going loopy..............just looked at no2 and they are not there..............wea re talking about the 1901.....right?

SylviaIn Canada i do not know what the E stands but on her marriage certificate it only has Alice Norris {nee} Stanton born 1877 from Deptford, husband James Norris born Greenwich. There was no E with her name.

Sorry Ann it`s not number 2 it was 53 Glenforth Street Greenwich { my head is all over the place tonight sorry} and yes we are talking about 1901, thanks Ann, Ann.

They are listed under KORRIS! I actually searched *orris and no result which is weird.

The only James I can find who is a floater (not belonging to any family) is also in a home in Essex, but his birth place is given as Herts??

How do you know the parents were alive in 1911?