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All I know is Eliza Unwin had a son called Frederick Unwin who was born 1885 in Leyton Essex/London. His birth certificate had her name but I cannot find any details for her. No fathers name x Thank you x

Are you asking for her birth details? have you tried to search for a death cert for her? that would give you a starting point on age and her birth place. Did Frederick marry ? what info does he give for his father on that? might be she married/remarried? what does the census show for the address on the birth cert you have? dont forget to check homes a few pages either side ... her family may have lived near her.. Do you know if she was employed..that might give a lead.. happy hunting

I have his birth certificate with her name Eliza Unwin on it. I know details about him but nothing about this mother or father.

If the father wasn't named on the birth cert.. any info about him on Frederick's marriage cert would be suspect

What was the address on the birth cert?

Is this it?


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Births Sep 1885 (>99%)
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Unwin Frederick Holborn 1b 651


If it is......it isn't Essex

I could not read the address :( I know my gt gt grandad frederick unwin married emily martin in the early 1900's, he died at the age of 31 in 1916. I cannot find their marriage :(

He was definately born in leyton :)

Tricky - can see him 1901 but not 1891:


1901 England Census
about Frederick Unwin
Name: Frederick Unwin
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Leyton, Essex, England

Civil parish: Stanford Rivers
Ecclesiastical parish: Stanford Rivers St Margaret
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Registration district: Ongar
Sub-registration district: Chipping Ongar

Elizabeth Wood 66
Frederick Unwin 16
Hardie Wood 5
Susan Gosling 1

I don't know where you looked for the marriage....it's on freebmd!

Marriages Dec 1910 (>99%)
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MARTIN Emily W. Ham 4a 507
Unwin Frederick W.Ham 4a 507

Had a look on FreeBMD and possibles: Eliza Unwin born 12/1860 Stepney GRO vol 1C page 503 or Elizabeth Unwin born 6/1862 in Bethnal Green GRO vol 1C pqge 265 These assume she was born roughtly in the same area as her son.There are numerous other possibles .

???? born romford though

1911 census - household transcription
Person: UNWIN, Frederick
Address: Malting Cottages Moreton Near Ongar

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Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
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UNWIN, Frederick Head Married M 26 1885 General Labourer Ex Romford VIEW
UNWIN, Emily Wife Married F 22 1889 E Woodford Wells VIEW

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Hi Brummie, thank you - thats him!

Would his mother be from the same area, did Eliza Unwin show up at all?

Thank you, I forgot about freebmd!

1911? Married <1 year

UNWIN, Frederick Head Married M 26 1885 General Labourer Ex Romford VIEW
UNWIN, Emily Wife Married F 22 1889 E Woodford Wells VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9810 Reference:
RG14PN9810 RG78PN518 RD190 SD1 ED7 SN26

Registration District:
Ongar Sub District:
Bobbingworth Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Moreton High Ongar

Address:
Malting Cottages Moreton Near Ongar County:
Essex

Marriages Dec 1910 (>99%)

MARTIN Emily W. Ham 4a 507
Unwin Frederick W.Ham 4a 507

If he was born in Leyton it would probably say West Ham or Essex

I am just so desperate to find out about his mother, I know she was called Eliza Unwin but I have no details for her

Unless you can find her on 1891 census with her son, I'm afraid you may never find out about her.

That's the problem with unmarried mothers............imagine what it will be like in the future for researchers, with so few parents marrying these days..................

Oh god yes its going to be a nightmare nowadays!

Did you get Eliza's name from your father? Just want to be sure you gave the right Frederick. It seems strange to change birthplace in 1911.
Would the marriage cert be of any use I wonder??
Jan

Leyton and Romford are a bus ride away did it regular as a child but not near enough as being the same place really

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