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thank you Patricia , will now try and trace John and their parents . You have been so helpful

Mary?
1841 England Census
Mary Juden Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Gender: Female Where born: Middlesex, England Civil parish: Chelsea Hundred: Ossulstone (Kensington Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Wellington street ? Occupation: straw worker Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Chelsea South
Mary Juden 35
Mary Wale 20
James Juden 15
John Juden 12
Susan Juden 10
Eliza Juden 8
William Juden 7
Emily Juden 2
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 688; Book: 11; Civil Parish: Chelsea; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 12; Page: 18; Line: 12; GSU roll: 438804.

Can anyone assist me , I am trying to find details of the marraige between John Juden and Mary Dunbar who married 10-10-1825 in London area , both born about 1806 , Mary died 1858 , but can't find their parents or any children , any help or suggestion on where to look would be most appreciated , thanks Gail

Ann and Patricia. Wow thank you so much for your help and assistnce I've plenty to go on now , so thanks once again . Gail

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Husband's Name
John JUDEN (AFN:LFMH-MS) Pedigree

Born: 1700 Place: England

Father: Stephen JUDEN (AFN:LFMH-KG) Family
Mother: MARY (AFN:LFMH-LM)

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Wife's Name
Sarah WHITBREAD (AFN:LFMH-93) Pedigree

Born: 1704 Place: England

Father:
Mother:

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Children

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1. Sex Name
M Stephen JUDEN (AFN:LFMH-B8) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1720 Place:

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2. Sex Name
F Ann JUDEN (AFN:LFMH-CF) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1722 Place:

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3. Sex Name
F Sarah JUDEN (AFN:LFMH-DL) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1724 Place:

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4. Sex Name
F Elizabeth JUDEN (AFN:LFMH-FR) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1726 Place:

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5. Sex Name
F Mary JUDEN (AFN:LFMH-GX) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1728 Place:

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6. Sex Name
F Hannah JUDEN (AFN:LFMH-H4) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1730 Place:

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7. Sex Name
M John JUDEN (AFN:LFMH-J9) Pedigree

Born: 1732 Place:

JOHN JUDEN Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 11 OCT 1584 Saint Margaret, Westminster, London, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN JUDEN Family
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

JOHN JUDEN Pedigree
Male Family

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Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH GARLAND Family
Marriage: 03 JUN 1795 Saint Olave, Southwark, Surrey, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

John, 1829, with Mother Mary in 1841?:
1841 England Census
John Juden Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil parish: Chelsea Hundred: Ossulstone (Kensington Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Chelsea South
Mary Juden 35
Mary Wale 20
James Juden 15
John Juden 12
Susan Juden 10
Eliza Juden 8
William Juden 7
Emily Juden 2
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 688; Book: 11; Civil Parish: Chelsea; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 12; Page: 18; Line: 15; GSU roll: 438804.

just found Mary , her maiden name was Dunbar born in surrey in 1806.

Patricia , I haven't managed to get John or Mary in any census , found out that they were my great great grandad john juden's parents , he was born 1829 and died 1875 he married a Sarah Rundle , relations from them down to present day I am doing okay on , also from the info in the replies I got back recently from some of the other members which I am very grateful for it's just finding out where John and mary were born and any other info on them that I'm getting stuck with may have to send for some certificates on them . Many thanks for your Assistance Gail

Gail,
Have you got John and Mary in any of the censuses, and what relatives have you definitely found (to connect to you?)
It would have been helpful if you had said what you wanted at the start, so we do not find information that you already know.
Thanks

Thank you to all who have sent replies to my request they have been a great help , I am new to this so apologies for any gaffes I may make , am stuck at the moment on info on John Juden I believe was born around 1806 and was married to Mary know its a long shot not much info afraid but grateful for any assistance or where to look for details on this one , once again many Thanks to all . Regards Gail

This most interesting surname is of early medieval English origin, and has two possible sources. Firstly, the surname may be from an assimilated form of Jordan, which is a baptismal name taken from the name of the river Jordan (which derives from the Hebrew "Yarden", from "yarad", to go down, descend (to the Dead Sea). At the time of the Crusades it was common practice for crusaders and pilgrims to bring back flask of water from the river, in which John the Baptist, had baptized people, including Christ Himself, and to use it in the christening of their own children. Thus Jordan became quite a popular given name in commemoration of this. Secondly, the surname may be from the male given name Jude, with the diminutive suffix "en"; hence, "little Jude". Jude is an abbreviated form of the Hebrew "Judah", the name of a son of Jacob. The name was occasionally used in medieval England, either from the name of the Apostle Jude, sometimes called Judas, or through the popularity of the story of Judas Maccabaeus. Nicholas Jurdan, Walter Judden and William Judden are listed in the 1332 Subsidy Rolls of Warwickshire. In the modern idiom the surname can be found as Judi, Jaudin, Juddin, Judden and Juden. Recordings of the surname from London Church Registers include: the christening of John, son of John Juden, on October 11th 1584, at St. Margaret's, Westminster, and the marriage of John Juden and Elizabeth Garland at St. Olave's, Southwark, on June 3rd 1795. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Adam Judden, which was dated 1327, in the "Subsidy Rolls of Worcestershire", during the reign of King Edward 11, known as "Edward the Confessor", 1307 - 1327. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling

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1881

Richard SHROLL Head M Male 50 Bristol, Gloucester, England Engine Smith
Maria SHROLL Wife M Female 50 Southwark, Surrey, England
Richard SHROLL Head M Male 33 Lambeth, Surrey, England Engineer Machinist
Eliza SHROLL Wife M Female 34 Poplar, Middlesex, England
Annie SHROLL Daur Female 8 Lambeth, Surrey, England Scholar
Jane SHROLL Daur Female 6 Lambeth, Surrey, England Scholar
Richard SHROLL Son Male 3 Lambeth, Surrey, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Wheatsheaf Lane 5 Vittoria Cottages
Census Place Lambeth, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341139
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0605 / 45
Page Number 20

THOMAS JUDEN Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 16 AUG 1829 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England
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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM JUDEN Family
Mother: MARY
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

THOMAS JUDEN Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 11 NOV 1599 Saint Margaret, Westminster, London, England
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Parents:
Father: THOMAS JUDEN Family
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

International Genealogical Index - British Isles
1. KATHEREN JEWDEN - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 16 FEB 1605 Ideford, Devon, England

2. CATHERINE JUDEN - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 11 FEB 1719 Warminghurst, Sussex, England

3. KATE PRISCILLA BROAENS JUDEN - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 29 JUL 1860 Birdham, Sussex, England

4. KATE MARY JANE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 26 JAN 1870 St Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, England

5. KATE PRISCILLA BRODRIB JUDEN - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Marriage: 30 OCT 1880 Saint Peter, Brighton, Sussex, England

6. Kate Juden - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 27 APR 1884 Washington, Sussex, England

Matches: International Genealogical Index/British Isles - 6

1881

Frederick SHROLL Head M Male 48 Mortlake, Surrey, England Attendant (Lunatic)
Sarah SHROLL Wife M Female 44 Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Sarah A. SHROLL Daur U Female 19 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Domestic Servant
Minnie SHROLL Daur U Female 14 Marylebone, Middlesex, England
William SHROLL Son U Male 12 Hillingdon, Middlesex, England Scholar
Annie SHROLL Daur U Female 9 Hillingdon, Middlesex, England Scholar
Fredk. SHROLL Son U Male 5 Hillingdon, Middlesex, England Scholar
Evelyn SHROLL Daur U Female 1 Hanwell, Middlesex, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Green Lane 4 Sunnyside
Census Place Hanwell, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341329
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1356 / 63
Page Number 4

William SHROLL Head M Male 28 Lambeth, Surrey, England Boiler Maker
Harriett SHROLL Wife M Female 28 Lambeth, Surrey, England
Marie SHROLL Daur Female 4 Lambeth, Surrey, England
Infant SHROLL Daur Female 1 m Lambeth, Surrey, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 16 Gloster St
Census Place Lambeth, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341139
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0604 / 54
Page Number 47

1881

CHARLES JAUDIN Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 25 JUL 1805

Christening: 18 AUG 1805 Saint Giles Cripplegate, London, London, England
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Parents:
Father: EDWD JAUDIN Family
Mother: DIANA
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.