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Thanks for all your help

hi aimmee
here are the baptisms of siblings of magdalen hervey
anthony 12 11 1783 john 24 2 1785 stephen 10 9 1787 elizabeth 28 10 1788 benjamin 31 1 1791 esther 8 12 1792 anthony 13 9 1795 all notts st mary
marrage anthony hervey and mary scrimshaw 24 10 1782 notts st mary
sharon

Thanks for all your help, that's cleared that confusion up

I would presume this is Magdalene's death

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Sep 1849 (>99%)
Martin Magdalene W Drayton 18 104

That would make sense as that would make him Mary's older brother

I must be getting old - I couldn't see this marriage at all a few minutes ago!!!

JOSEPH MARTIN Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: MAGDALENE HERVEY Family
Marriage:
01 AUG 1826 Mucklestone, Stafford, England


and looks like she came from Nottingham - in 1841 she is listed as born out of county

MAGDALEN HERVEY Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
22 APR 1798 Saint Mary, Nottingham, Nottingham, England
Parents:
Father: ANTHONY HERVEY Family
Mother: MARY

Without a birthplace for Joseph it is difficult to tell but there is this possible birth in Mucklestone with father William

JOS. MARTIN Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
19 JAN 1806 Mucklestone, Stafford, Englan

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM MARTIN

That's ok, thanks for looking; it seems as though John and Mary aren't relations although it does seem an odd coincidence

Sorry the children seem to have dispersed by 1851, presumably why John was living away from his family

Thank you for your help

The christening of Joseph may just not be on the IGI. I couldn't see Joseph and family post 1841 to see where he was born, but will relook

Perhaps it is just a concidence then that John Martin is born in Maer like Mary and they're no relation at all, although that does seem odd.

The IGI gives these possible siblings for Mary, but no Joseph

1. SAMUEL MARTIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 24 JUL 1808 Maer, Stafford, England
2. MARY MARTIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 20 OCT 1811 Maer, Stafford, England
3. SARAH MARTEN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 11 OCT 1801 Maer, Stafford, England

I was wondering if William and James Jervis were brothers so thanks for that.

Mary Jervis nee Martin would have been around 29 in 1841 so Joseph could be her older brother, which would make John her nephew and would explain why John is living with Mary in the 1851 census and is apprenticed to her husband. I will look into this possibility, see if I can't find a baptism for a Jpseph Martin with parents William Martin and Elizabeth. Thanks for all the help so far.

James lists his birth as Mucklestone in the census. The IGI gives this children as possible siblings with parents James and Ellen Jervis so it looks like the William Jerivs you found in 1861 was James's brother

1. JAS. JERVIS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 09 DEC 1799 Mucklestone, Stafford, England
2. WM. JERVIS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 08 JAN 1797 Mucklestone, Stafford, England
3. JANE JARVIS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 02 JUN 1789 Mucklestone, Stafford, England

I've just checked the census again and it does look more like Martin than Jervis so thanks for that. At least I have Mary's parents now.

The John Martin from 1851 in 1841?

ame: John Martin
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Maer
Hundred: North Pirehill
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Newcastle under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Whitmore
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Martin 35 grocer
Magdalin Martin 40
William Martin 14
Joseph Martin 12
Stephen Martin 10
Samuel Martin 8
Magdalen Martin 6
Josua Martin 4
John Martin 2
Esther Withenshaw 90 listed as of independant means and not born in the county

The 1851 census lists William Martin as born in Sheepy Leics so I wonder if this could be him on the IGI


WILLIAM MARTIN Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
04 APR 1774 Sheepy Magna, Leicester, England
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM MARTIN Family
Mother: MARY

The record of the marriage on the IGI does not list parents names but it is possible that they could be on the original parish record