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Linda
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4 Jun 2010 12:56 |
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Can anyone help me I am stuck. I know my grandmother Hannah Mary Elizabeth Latchford was born in Edmonton in 1890. I only know her mother was also called Hannah born in 1856 don't know where died in 1928 aged 72 years reg in Wandsworth. I know they lived in SIlver Street Edmonton, But I can not find her or her family on any census or even what her husbands name is or her maiden name. I have a hint that they have an irish connection. I am lost I had hoped the 1911 census would show something. I can Find the daughter married to Charles Henry Beckett living in Tooting. Please Help
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Barbara
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4 Jun 2010 13:04 |
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The brith certificate would give the mothers surname
Births Dec 1890 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Latchford Hannah Mary E Edmonton 3a 360
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Linda
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4 Jun 2010 13:09 |
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I have a birth certificate or what I think is the certificate a small slip of paper but it does not show parents details I found the registered birth date but, I don't know where else to look. How might she not be on the census for 1901 or 1911. Linda
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Barbara
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4 Jun 2010 13:10 |
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1911 census transcription details for: 16 a Mellison Road Tooting S W National Archive Reference: RG14PN2362 RG78PN78B RD26 SD5 ED77 SN331 Reg. District: Wandsworth Sub District: Streatham Parish: Wandsworth Borough Enum. District: 77 Address: 16 a Mellison Road Tooting S W County: London Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LUTCHFORD, Samuel Head Married M 55 1856 Coal Porter Clerkenwell London
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LUTCHFORD, Hanah Wife Married 22 years F 54 1857 Whichaplie London
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LUTCHFORD, May Daughter Single F 17 1894 Kingston Surrey
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Barbara
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4 Jun 2010 13:11 |
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Original image for 1911 looks like latchford.
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Abby
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4 Jun 2010 13:12 |
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1889 (>99%) Baynton Charles William B Bethnal Green 1c 663 t DONOVAN Hannah Bethnal Green 1c 663 Evans William Charles Bethnal Green 1c 663 Latchford Samuel Henry Bethnal Green 1c 663 PALMER Harriett Bethnal Green 1c 663
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CherryBlossom
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4 Jun 2010 13:14 |
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She may be married in 1911??
Marriages Dec 1907 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>BECKETT Charles Henry Wandsworth 1d 1341 COUPER John Mac Donald Wandsworth 1d 1341 GROVES Lilian Wandsworth 1d 1341 >>>>LATCHFORD Hannah Mary E Wandsworth 1d 1341
Are you sure about the year of birth??
There is this Hannah M Beckett in 1991, but she was born in 1882
BECKETT, Charles H Head Married 4 years M 27 1884 General Labourer Hertsford Middlesex VIEW BECKETT, Hannah M Wife Married F 29 1882 Edmunton Middlesex VIEW BECKETT, Hilda M Daughter Single F 3 1908 Tooting Surrey VIEW BECKETT, Violet M Daughter Single F 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Tooting Surrey VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 2356 Reference: RG14PN2356 RG78PN78B RD26 SD5 ED71 SN352 Registration District: Wandsworth Sub District: Streatham Enumeration District: 71 Parish: Wandsworth Borough Address: 1 Kings Parade Mews Mitcham Road Tooting S W
EDIT - just checked the original image - looks to me like the original age was 21 but the enumerator has changed the 1 to a 9. So this is probably your lady born 1890.
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Linda
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4 Jun 2010 13:15 |
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Wow thank you. That could be it. Can you check same address 1901 census to see it Hannah Mary Elizabeth is there too. Linda
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Linda
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4 Jun 2010 13:19 |
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Yes this is the daughter Hannanh Mary Elizabeth married Charles Henry Beckett. But Its her family mothers maiden name that I am after. Barbara suggests miss spelt surname Lutchford on census.
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Barbara
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4 Jun 2010 13:24 |
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the marriage safc found - the mothers surname could be Donovan
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Barbara
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4 Jun 2010 13:29 |
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The 1911 says 3 children born 3 living.
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Choccy
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4 Jun 2010 13:32 |
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possibly - in 1891
LUTCHFORD, Samuel Head Married M 33 1858 Coal Porter Kings Cross London VIEW LUTCHFORD, Anne Wife Married F 34 1857 Tailoress Whitehall London VIEW LUTCHFORD, Anne Daughter F 0 (5M) 1891 Edmonton Middlesex VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG12 Piece: 45 Folio: 133 Page: 43 Registration District: Fulham Sub District: Fulham Enumeration District: 5 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Andrews Civil Parish: Fulham Municipal Borough: Address: 22, Hilmer Street, Fulham County: London
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Linda
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4 Jun 2010 13:38 |
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Wife should definately be Hannah I have details of her grave in 1928
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CherryBlossom
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4 Jun 2010 13:42 |
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Looks like the Donovans in 1861 - the 1911 gives Hannah's birthplace as Whitechapel.
1861 England Census about Hannah Donovan Name: Hannah Donovan Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Jeremh Mother's Name: Catl Gender: Female Where born: Whitechl, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Whitechapel Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Whitechapel North ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 144 Household Members: Name Age Jeremh Donovan 38 ....labourer....born Ireland Catl Donovan 38 ....born Ireland Bridget Donovan 12 Ellen Donovan 10 Cornelius Donovan 8 Hannah Donovan 4 All children born Whitechapel
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There is also this family in 1871 with a Hannah born 1857
1871 England Census about Hannah Donovan Name: Hannah Donovan Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Timothy Mother's Name: Hannah Gender: Female Where born: Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Civil parish: St Mary Whitechapel Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Dock Street County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Aldgate ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 208 Household Members: Name Age Timothy Donovan 45 ....born Ireland, County Cork Hannah Donovan 44 ...born Ireland, Tiperarry Hannah Donovan 14 I think you may need Hannah Donovan's marriage certificate to get the correct father.
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Barbara
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4 Jun 2010 13:43 |
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The Hannahs in my family ued the name Annie or Anna or Anne. It was easier.
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Barbara
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4 Jun 2010 13:44 |
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1871 census transcription details for: Lambeth Street, St Mary Whitechapel National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 522 Folio: 57 Page: 19 Reg. District: Whitechapel Sub District: Goodman's Fields Parish: St Mary Whitechapel Enum. District: 3 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Lambeth Street, St Mary Whitechapel County: London, Middlesex Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DONNAVAN, Denis Head M 45 1826 Ireland
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DONNAVAN, Ellen Wife F 44 1827 Ireland
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DONNAVAN, Mary Ann Daughter F 18 1853 London
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DONNAVAN, Ellen Daughter F 17 1854 London
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DONNAVAN, Hannah Daughter F 14 1857 London
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DONNAVAN, Elizabeth Daughter F 12 1859 London
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Linda
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4 Jun 2010 13:45 |
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Barbara Thank you, you even have the Irish connection covered.
Linda
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Barbara
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4 Jun 2010 13:46 |
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1881 census transcription details for: 59, Lambeth St, Whitechapel National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 446 Folio: 28 Page: 4 Reg. District: Whitechapel Sub District: Goodmans Fields Parish: Whitechapel Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: 59, Lambeth St, Whitechapel County: Middlesex Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DONOVAN, Dennis Head Married M 57 1824 Tailor Cork Ireland
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DONOVAN, Ellen Wife Married F 52 1829 Cork Ireland
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DONOVAN, Hannah Daughter Single F 24 1857 Serv (Dom) Whitechapel Middlesex
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BARRIE, Julia A Mother Widow F 57 1824 Washerwoman Bristol Gloucestershire
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Linda
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4 Jun 2010 13:50 |
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My only concern here is I have a different spelling of Latchford to Lutchford. Now we have Different spellings of Donovan. Could this be what happens
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Rambling
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4 Jun 2010 13:51 |
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Linda that family that Choccy found, and you queried name Ann for Hannah?
Name: Elsie Hilda May Latchford Record Type: Baptism Date: 21 Mar 1894 Father's Name: Samuel Henry Latchford ( coal porter) Mother's Name: Hannah Latchford Parish: St Andrew, West Kensington Borough: Lambeth County: Middlesex
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