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Death of chinese man in Neath Wales 1931 can anyon

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Janet

Janet Report 19 May 2010 22:11

I am looking for a chinese man who died aged 50 years old in 1931, he died at the house which was, 97 Windsor Road, Neath, were he lived with his partner Mary Fegan and there son Anthony aged three at the time of his fathers death, Anthony (who is 81 years old now )doesn't now the name of his father and would dearly love to find his fathers grave before he dies. He knows he was buried in a cemetery in Cardiff. Please can someone help

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 19 May 2010 22:19

Hi Janet.
Well.it's doable but tricky as over 1000 people died in neath in 1931!!
Do you know the date, or even the month, he died?
I'm assuming your father has his birth cert and no father is on there?
If he was a British citizen maybe he could vote, so a look at the electoral register might hold the answer.
jan

Andrew

Andrew Report 19 May 2010 22:31

I've checked deatghs in Neath 1931/2 for ages 49/50/51. Nothing foreign looking shows up.

Andy

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 19 May 2010 22:32

Have you tried Freebmd? It's a case of trwling through deaths in neath - you don't need a name. Don't forget to look eiother side too. But without more info it could be impossible to pin him down.
A lot of Chinese people adopt an English first name over here too. For example, this sounds vaguely Chinese:

Pow Henry H 23 Neath 11a 1235

Wyen Kim 56 Neath 11a 883

Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 19 May 2010 22:38

Actually, I quite fancy the Kim Wyen one. How sure are you of his age? If your father was only 3 when he died maybe he is mistaken.
Can't find any other reference to this person, though could be female of course!
Jan

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 19 May 2010 23:01

There's quite a distance between Neath and Cardiff, I wonder why he was buried in a Cardiff cemetery.- Perhaps there is a special area for burial of Chinese people?..
Maybe Cardiff burials are listed on computer and Cemetery department could check for a likely name. I would think that place of death would be recorded in their records.
Maybe the Neath office would be able to search on the address for added information.

Gwyn

Janet

Janet Report 20 May 2010 14:29

yes he took his mothers maiden name which was fegan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 20 May 2010 15:03

So he has his birth cert? Just checking because it would be nice to exclude any mention of a father.
Jan

Janet

Janet Report 20 May 2010 15:04

I would like to thank all the helpers who have tried to solve my problem, I have never put anything on the message board before and was shocked to see all the replys, I am going over everything that you have all mentioned, any more help would be greatfuuly recieved. Thank you Cynthia for your message or I wouldn't have known i had any replys.
Kind regards Janet

Janet

Janet Report 20 May 2010 15:07

Yes the son has his birth certifecate but with now mention of his father only his mother.

Corinne

Corinne Report 20 May 2010 19:40

If you're absolutely sure he was buried in Cardiff you may well have to visit any cemetaries and ask to look at their records for 1931. You would have to trawl through the books until you found someone who died at the address you have.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 May 2010 22:32

i wonder if you can trace him through the electoral rolls for that time as you know the address you could try the local records Office for Neath . If you arent in the area then they may well have a website or a contact tel nos if you google for it

Janet

Janet Report 20 May 2010 22:52

I may have to have a trip to Cardiff like you say but I live in Devon so it is quite a way. i tried looking on the free bmd site but I don't now how to look for someone with now name, all I have is an address where he died

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 20 May 2010 22:59

Was Anthony baptised?
If so, I wonder if his father is named in the register.?

Do you know the father's occupation?... Still wondering why they took him to be buried in Cardiff, after a death in Neath?

Gwyn

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 21 May 2010 10:14

Wyen Kim 56 june qt Neath 11a 883
Kim Wyen 56 june qt Neath 11a 883

Chinese names are surname first I think. So its been registered both ways

Kim I know is a Chinese surname

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 21 May 2010 12:29

Looks like I was right to fancy that one! Problem is there might be no way of deciding if he is your grandfather even if you get the death cert.

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 21 May 2010 13:34

The death certificate should show his address at the time of his death. I know they don't always show this, but most seem to.

Jill

Julia

Julia Report 21 May 2010 13:48

Just a thought, well a very UNeducated guess, but did not Cardiff have ships and boats coming into it years ago. Perhaps this gentleman was part of this community, and as a community they had their own corner in a cemetary in Cardiff. There must have been more than one Chinese gentleman die. And, also perhaps, Neath was where is lady partner lived, and he did also when he was not on a boat.
Just a curious thought on my behalf, as I find this post interesting.
All the Best
Julia in Derbyshire

Julia

Julia Report 21 May 2010 18:11

Nudged for the evening and over night people
Julia in Derbyshire

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 21 May 2010 18:37

If I were you I would write a very polite letter to the registrar for Neath and Port Talbot area:

The Register Office, 119 London Road, Neath, SA11 1HL.
Tel: 01639 760021.

Tell them the details of what you are looking for and why, enclose a sae/or e-mail address or phone them.
I did this for a record in Merioneth as there were 2 to choose from. They e-mailed me back to say that neither matched my criteria so saving the cost of 2 certificates.

I have always found staff in these offices to be very helpful concerning family history.

Good luck