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Hi, I'm trying to find the parents of Ada Conroy, Born in Liverpool in 1869. I've found her in the 1871 census as Ada Cornuay and she's living with a Robert Jones and his wife. Could anyone please tell me the relationship, if any, between Ada and Robert? 10 years later she is still living the Joneses (as a boarder?)
She married James Whalley in 1887, giving her fathers name as Thomas. However one of my 'contacts' tried to order her birth certificate only to find the registrar would not do so as her fathers name was not Thomas.

Thanks in advance

John.

There were no penalties until 1875 for not registering births.

If she was illegitimate, she probably invented a father's name for the sake of propriety

What was the maiden name of Mrs Jones?

If Ada was related to Robert, it would say so on the census return - all relationships are as to the HEAD of the household

Sorry I meant Ada CONWAY not Conroy. D'OH!

Hi John,

on the 1871 census Ada is listed as "visitor"


Dee x

She's just down as a visitor!


Name: Ada Cornuay
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Columbas
County/Island: Lancashire
Address:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>18 Green Lane
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Mount Pleasant
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Jones 51
Ann Jones 53
Ada Cornuay 4




Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3782; Folio: 100; Page: 23; GSU roll: 841893.

IF you are sure now about her surname.............

ADA CONWAY Birth: 22 DEC 1866

Christening: 10 MAY 1869 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Father: JOHN CONWAY
Mother: ELIZA

_______________________________________

Conway, British Isles
Father: John , Mother: Eliza
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: P020948

1. ADA CONWAY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 MAY 1869 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

2. HANNAH CECILIA CONWAY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 27 JUL 1868 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England BIRTH 31 Dec 1867


Check this family out against census returns.....................

Hi Flick,

I don't know Mrs Jones's maiden name, all I know is that she was Scottish. However Ada's birth does seem to be registered. I found this on the free bmd site.

Births Sep 1869 (>99%)
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Conway Ada Liverpool 8b 169

1869 is TOO LATE for her birth - she was 4 in 1871

My guess is she was illegitimate and the Jones couple just cared for her:

1881 England Census

Name: Ada Conway
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 26 Brunswick View

Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby (Municipal)

Robert E. Jones 61
Ann Jones 65
Ada Conway 11

If you're feeling rich I suppose you could send for the cert again but without specifying father's name! Not sure if it would help much though, as how could you be sure it was yours?

Jan

This one too:

Births Mar 1867 (>99%)
CONWAY Ada W. Derby 8b 516

That seems more like it, Jan

How old was she when she married, John?

It's probably me but I can't see her marriage to James Whalley.
Jan

There must be two Ada's and I can't figure them out!! 1911:

WHALLEY, James Head Married M 45 1866 Labourer General St Newnham Lancs VIEW
WHALLEY, Ada Wife Married F 42 1869 Liverpool Lancs VIEW
WHALLEY, Thomas Son Single M 18 1893 Glass Hand Appren Sheet Liverpool Lancs VIEW
WHALLEY, Harold Son Single M 16 1895 Glass Hand Appren Sheet Liverpool Lancs VIEW
WHALLEY, Ada Daughter F 10 1901 School St Helens Lancs VIEW
WHALLEY, Christina Daughter F 6 1905 School St Helens Lancs VIEW
WHALLEY, Stanley Son M 1 (19 MONTHS) 1910 St Helens Lancs VIEW

Registration District:
Prescot Sub District:
St Helens Enumeration District:
33 Parish:
St Helens

Address:
114 Eccleston St St Helens Lancashire County:
Lancashire

Says married 24 years.

Ada married 21/06/1887 in St Jude's West Derby. She was 18. Sorry if I'm repeating but my last 2 posts have disappeared...

From LancashireBMD

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1887
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference


WHALLEY James CONWAY Ada Edge Hill, St. Jude Liverpool 2110WD/3/406

Just repeating Flick's question - how old was she when she married?
Just in case Thomas was genuine, do you have an occupation for him?
Jan

may contain DOB??

Name: Ada Whalley
Death Registration Month/Year: 1953 SEP Q
Age at death (estimated): 84
Registration district: St Helens
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10f
Page: 310

Hi Jan, There were two Ada Conways. One was born 1866/7, the Daughter of John and Eliza the other was the Ada Conway living with the Jones family. Apparently when she married she gave her father as Thomas, but this doesn't make sense... I know that others have tried to order her birth certificate based on this info but the registrar wouldn't release it or give any more info. I'd try to order it my self but I'm skint :-(

Wow thanks Liverbird, I've been trying to find that info for months!!!

You're welcome!

Hope it's the correct one, area and age match up

:-)