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Could someone please look for Richard Turnbull b1831, wife Catherine b1833 and children William b1853 and Cromwell b1859. All born in Rushen, Isle of man. They were still in the Isle of Man during the 1861 census and in the American one by 1880. Any help much appreciated. Thank you.

The 1900 US Census states that they went in 1870

Richard Turnbull
Home in 1900: Belle Plaine, Benton, Iowa
Age: 66
Birth Date: Jul 1833
Birthplace: Isle of Man
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1870
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Scotland
Mother's Birthplace: Isle of Man
Spouse's name: Catharina
Marriage Year: 1854
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 46
Residence : Belle Plain City, Benton, Iowa
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Turnbull 66
Catharina Turnbull 64
Richard Turnbull 19
Bertha M Turnbull 17
Nellie A Turnbull 14
Thomas Mcpherson 26

They were actually in Anglesey in North Wales for the 1861 Census..... or is that the reg district for Isle of Man?

Name: Cromwell Turnbull
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard
Mother's Name: Cathrine
Gender: Male
Where born: Rushen, Isle of Man, Isle of Man

Civil Parish or Township: Rushen
County/Island: Isle of Man
Country: Isle of Man

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Anglesey
Sub-registration district: Holyhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 99
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Turnbull 30
Cathrine Turnbull 28
William Turnbull 8
Cromwell Turnbull 2
James Turnbull 32
Elizebath Collister 60
John Clague 28

Thank you Astra. It's certainly the Richard I'm tracking. I wonder what happened to the boys. Thank you again for your time.

There is a Richard travelling in 1870. He is a farmer which matches yours but there is no other information and I can't locate the rest of the family.

Richd Turnbull
Arrival Date: 24 May 1870
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Place of Origin: England
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: English
Ship Name: City of Paris

Hi Cathy, I'm not sure either lol! My geography isn't that great! I'll have to 'google' a bit. Thanks for pointing it out to me though. Much obliged.

Thanks again Astra. I'm sure the others will turn up at some point. Thanks for looking for me.

1880 United States Federal Census
about Wm. E. Turnbull

Name: Wm. E. Turnbull
Home in 1880: Salt Creek, Tama, Iowa
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Birthplace: Isle of Man
Relation to Head of Household: Son
Spouse's name: Ida
Father's Name: Richard
Father's birthplace: Isle of Man
Mother's Name: Catherine
Mother's birthplace: Isle of Man

Occupation: Works On Farm
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male

Richard Turnbull 47
Catherine Turnbull 44
Wm. E. Turnbull 25
Ida Turnbull 22
Bamruell Turnbull 20


Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925
about Wm Turnbull
Name: Wm Turnbull
Birth Year: abt 1857
Birth Place: Europe
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Census Date: 1885
Residence State: Iowa
Residence County: Tama
Locality: Salt Creek
Roll: IA1885_266
Line: 13
Family Number: 53
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
R Turnbull 48
Cathern Turnbull 46
Wm Turnbull 28
Ida Turnbull 26
Dick Turnbull 4
Bertha Turnbull 2
Tedore Dupree

There's a tree on Ancestry that has Richard Turnbull born 1833, Isle of Man, married to Catherine Collister, 1854 Isle of Man. Son William E, Turnbull born 1855 Isle of Man and married to Harriet Ida Wilkinson who was born 1858, Iowa. They had 3 children Richard, Bertha M. and Nettie A. Bertha married Francis B. Collins and had daughter Elizabeth Nell.

I think you'll find Cromwell is actually Bramwell......

but I still can't find his birth record!

I think Cathy is right. This is from IGI, extracted.


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BRAMWELL TURNBULL Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 12 SEP 1858 Kirk Rushen, Isle Of Man, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RICHARD TURNBULL Family
Mother: CATHERINE COLLISTER

This is also on Familysearch but submitted:
Individual Record FamilySearch™ Pedigree Resource File

Search Results | Print

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Bramwell A. Turner or Turnbull Compact Disc #81 Pin #973462 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: 25 Aug 1860

Isle of Man, , United Kindom

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Parents
Father: Richard Turnbull Disc #81 Pin #973463
Mother: Catherine Collister Disc #81 Pin #973464

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Josie Woodward Disc #81 Pin #973466
Marriage: 1885
Chicago, , Illinois

Spouse: Gertrude S. Fargo Disc #81 Pin #973468
Marriage: 23 Feb 1903
Chicago, , Illinois


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Notes and Sources
Notes: Available on CD-ROM Disc# 81
Sources: None

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Submitter
Barbara OLIVE
14165 Chamy Drive Reno, Nevada 89511


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Submission Search: 835270-0209104001108
URL:
CD-ROM: Pedigree Resource File - Compact Disc #81
CD-ROM Features: Pedigree View, Family View, Individual View, Reports, Downloadable GEDCOM files, Notes and Sources.

Also from IGI, extracted:

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ESTHER JANE TURNBULL Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 01 JUN 1856 Kirk Rushen, Isle Of Man, England

Death: 07 MAR 1857

Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RICHARD TURNBULL Family
Mother: CATHERINE COLLISTER



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WILLIAM EDWARD TURNBULL Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 21 DEC 1853 Kirk Rushen, Isle Of Man, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RICHARD TURNBULL Family
Mother: CATHERINE COLLISTER

Sorry I had to go away for a while...

Hi Cathy,

Thank you for the 1800 Census. Yes, I had come across variations of the name before now including Bramwell. Again thank you for your time.

Hi Margaret,

Thank you for the Ancestry tree info. Much appreciated. I'm going to have a look on there myself now.

Two Richard births, the first one having died:

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RICHARD TURNBULL Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 21 SEP 1828 Kirk Rushen, Isle Of Man, England

Death: 25 MAR 1829

Burial:


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Parents:
Father: THOS TURNBULL Family
Mother: ESTHER QUALTROUGH


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RICHARD TURNBULL Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 19 JUN 1831 Kirk Rushen, Isle Of Man, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: THOS TURNBULL Family
Mother: ESTHER QUALTROUGH

Bramwell on the 1900 US census:
Name: Bramara M Turnbull
[Bramwell Turnbull]
Home in 1900: Belle Plaine, Benton, Iowa
Age: 40
Birth Date: Aug 1859
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1870
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Spouse's name: Josie B
Marriage Year: 1884
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 16
Residence : Belle Plain City, Benton, Iowa
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Bramara M Turnbull 40
Josie B Turnbull 38
Jim B Turnbull 15

You might be interested in this :

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mygermanfamilies/WilsonLDiary.html

From this site:

http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/arthur-p-rose/an-illustrated-history-of-the-counties-of-rock-and-pipestone-minnesota-eso/page-126-an-illustrated-history-of-the-counties-of-rock-and-pipestone-minnesota-eso.shtml

BRAMWELL A. TURNBULL (19081,
shoemaker of Pipestone, is a native of the
Isle of Man, as were also his parents, Rich-
ard and Catherine (Collister) Turnbull.
The former is of Scotch-English parentage,
while the mother comes from a family who
have for several generations inhabited the
little island principality. Both parents are
still living at the ripe old ages of eighty
and seventy-seven years, respectively, and
reside at Belle Plaine, Iowa. Our subject
is the only surviving son in a family nf
two children. A brother, Edward, succumb-
ed to a sunstroke in Tama county, Iowa,
nineteen years ago.

Bra ni well A. Turnbull was born August
25, 1860. He received an early education
in the land of his birth and at the age of
twelve immigrated with his parents to the
United States. The family located on a
farm in Tama county, Iowa, where Bram-
well lived until after his twenty-second
birthday. He then went to Belle Plaine,
Iowa, where he learned the trades of har-
ness and shoe-making and conducted a
shop of his own in that place for many
years. On leaving that place, he went to
Chicago, and from there two years later, to
Winnebago City, Minnesota, where he was
a shoe merchant. In 190S Mr. Turnbull
settled in Pipestone and took over the shoe
shop of Barney Nedham, which he is now
conducting.

While residing in Belle Plaine Mr Turn-
bull took an active interest in the affairs of
the municipality. He served on the city
council, was city clerk, and was also a jus-
tice of peace. He was for fifteen years a
leading member of the volunteer fire de-
partment, of which he was the chief during
the last several years of his residence
there. He joined Belle Plaine Lodge No.



151, I. O. O. F-., and passed successively
through all the higher chairs of the order.
He was the past commander of the lodge
for four years. On removing to Winnebago
City he transferred his membership to the
lodge at that place. He is now the district
grand master and is a member of Hope
Lodge No. 89, of Pipestone.

Our subject has been twice married. In
188.'), at Chicago, Mr. Turnbull was mar-
ried to .losie Woodward, who died in 1901.
One son, James B., an electrical engineer
in Chicago, was born to this union. In
Chicago, on February 23, 1903, his marriage
to Gertrude S. Fargo occurred. Mrs. Turn-
hull is a native of Ohio and before her mar-
riage was connected with the Garfield Park
sanitarium, Chicago, as a trained nurse.
They have two daughters: Catherine F.,
born in Winnebago City on Marcli 25, 1904,
and Mona G., horn in the same place on
October 1, 190G.

Hi Margaret,
Wow! Thank you also for the IGI info. As soon as I've done my chores I'll get my head around it all. Thanks again for all your help. Much appreciated.

Do you do your chores first, Donna? You're not living right!