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trying to find any relative related to my great gran born rose bird 1891 in bideford married otho gilbert 1921 i believe her mother was katherine and her father was charles he was born in 1859 she had two girls barbra born 1922 and audrey born 1924 we are not sure if she had a sister called florence 1889 mabel 1893 olive 1895 elsie 1896 and a brother william thomas 1888

Spreading it out - hope you don't mind

trying to find any relative related to my great gran born rose bird 1891 in bideford
married otho gilbert 1921
i believe her mother was katherine and her father was charles he was born in 1859

she had two girls barbra born 1922 and audrey born 1924

we are not sure if she had a sister called florence 1889
mabel 1893
olive 1895
elsie 1896
and a brother william thomas 1888

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1901 census

Name: Rose Bird
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Catherine
Gender: Female
Where born: Bideford, Devon, England

Civil parish: Bideford
Ecclesiastical parish: Bideford St Mary
County/Island: Devon
Country: England


Registration district: Bideford
Sub-registration district: Bideford
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Bird 41
Catherine Bird 45
Wm Thos Bird 13
Florence Bird 11
Rose Bird 10
Mabel Bird 8
Olive Bird 6
Elsie Bird 5


Please say what you are hoping for....................

There were two Rose Birds born in Bideford about that time; presumably yours is the one working as a servant, though at the moment I am not seeing her parents anywhere. Will keep looking.

BIRD, John Head Married M 59 1852 Carman And License Lamb Inn Bideford Devon VIEW
BIRD, Sarah Wife Married
38 years F 60 1851 Bideford Devon VIEW
BIRD, Edie Daughter Single F 35 1876 Servant Home Cill Sittleham Devon VIEW
BIRD, Rose Daughter Single F 22 1889 Machiners Linen Bideford Devon VIEW
BIRD, Marion Daughter Single F 19 1892 Servant Bideford Devon VIEW
BIRD, Charles Son Single M 17 1894 Student Art School Bideford Devon VIEW
BIRD, Cecil Grandson Single M 12 1899 School Bideford Devon VIEW


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HOBLING, Thomas William Head Married M 41 1870 Bank Cashier Devonport Devon VIEW
HOBLING, Adelaide Marion Daughter F 3 1908 Bideford Devon VIEW
BIRD, Rose Servant F 20 1891 Mothers Help Domestic Bideford Devon VIEW
HOUNSELL, Queenie Edith Servant F 21 1890 General Servant Domestic Portland Dorset VIEW

1891 census

Name: Rose Bird
Age: 3/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Catherine
Gender: Female
Where born: Bideford, Devon, England

Civil parish: Bideford
Ecclesiastical parish: Bideford
Town: Bideford
County/Island: Devon
Country: England


Registration district: Bideford
Sub-registration district: Bideford
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Bird 32 ----------born Wear Gifford
Catherine Bird 35 --------Born Langtree
William Thomas Bird 3
Florence Bird 1
Rose Bird 3/12
William Bromiscombe 22
Walter Bate 27

Brother William in 1911:

WARD, Frederick E Head Married M 49 1862 Tailor Bradford Devon VIEW
WARD, Alice Hannah Wife Married
19 years F 42 1869 Thoverton Devon VIEW
WARD, Charlotte Mary Daughter Single F 17 1894 Milliner Holsworthy Devon VIEW
WARD, Marcus Raymond Son M 13 1898 At School Holsworthy Devon VIEW
BIRD, William Thomas Boarder Single M 23 1888 Railway Clerk Bideford Devon VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
13486 Reference:
RG14PN13486 RG78PN787 RD287 SD2 ED5 SN260

Registration District:
Holsworthy Sub District:
Holsworthy EnumerationDistrict:
5 Parish:
Holsworthy

Address:
8 Chapel St Holsworthy County:
Devonshire

At the moment I am not finding the rest of the family anywhere on the 1911 (using findmypast, not free search, which is often much more efficient). Presumably they are mistrnscribed somewhere ...

Likewise, Avey - I can't see the rest in 1911 - but do these both refer to the same Elsie?

Births Mar 1896 (>99%)
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Bird Elsie Kate Bideford 5b 466

Marriages Jun 1922 (>99%)
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BIRD Elsie K Beer Bideford 5b 1151

1911:

BIRDS, Charles Head Married M 51 1860 Furniture Packer Devon Weare Gifford
BIRDS, Catherine Wife Married 24 years F 53 1858 Devon Langtree
BIRDS, Florance Daughter Single F 21 1890 Dress Maker Devon Bideford
BIRDS, Mable Daughter Single F 18 1893 Dress Maker Devon Bideford VIEW
BIRDS, Olive Daughter Single F 16 1895 Drapers Chain Assistant Devon Bideford
BIRDS, Elsie Daughter Single F 15 1896 Devon Bideford
PERCY, George Boarder Single M 27 1884 Steam Trolly Driver Devon Exeter

Registration District:
Bideford Sub District:
Bideford EnumerationDistrict:
9 Parish:
Bideford

Address:
28 Barnstaple St Bideford County:
Devonshire

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Name: Catherine Bird
Death Registration Month/Year: 1945
Age at death (estimated): 91
Registration district: Bideford
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume: 5b
Page: 689

Good find, Jan - I'd searched using Wear - not Weare!!

Name: Mabel Bird
Death Registration Month/Year: 1936
Age at death (estimated): 43
Registration district: Bideford
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume: 5b
Page: 553

Flick, I just put Devon - I find the 1911 a bit picky when you give it too much info!
Jan

And I searched "Bird" with variants ... so "Birds" apparently isn't a variant of "Bird" ... aagh!

I did a free search first as I find it much better, then went on the FMP page to find them!
Jan

we are trying to find out where my great gran lived after otho gilbert died 1922 not much is known on my mothers side of the family and would be interested if their are any living relatives

So, we get no thanks for the work done for you, which was in good faith - you didn't specify that you only wanted post-1922 info

Name: Rose Bird
Spouse Surname: Gilbert
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1921
Registration district: Barnstaple
Registration county (inferred): North Devon
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 980
Find Spouse: Otho S L Gilbert

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Name: Otho S L Gilbert
Death Registration Month/Year: 1922
Age at death (estimated): 77
Registration district: Barnstaple
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume: 5b
Page: 663

Barbara J Gilbert Apr May Jun 1922 Barnstaple Devon/Cornwall/Seilly

Audrey K Gilbert Jan Feb Mar 1924 Barnstaple Devon/Cornwall/Seilly


Audrey seems to have married in 1962

thankyou so much only just gone on to see what you have done thankyou very much i would not know were to start