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Hi Mary,

Yes his dad was also named Henry the trouble is he gr grandfather Henry/Aubrey was living a the Castle in Carlisle, I have been in touch with the Castle and they could not help. Elizabeth was living at

1 Collingwood Street Carlisle which was her mother's house.

When Henry/Aubrey had their child Sydney in 1917 they were living at 1 Collingwood Street so do not know if he was away with the army and Elizabeth stayed with her mom very confusing.

Paula

Was Henry 1881's dad also Henry.

Mary.

I'm trying to find him on census,if he was a foreman he must have had the job a while.

Have you found Aubrey/Henry on 1901 census.
What was there address on marriage certificate.

Edit Just checked other death records for Carlisle and Cockermouth they say 1a must have changed at some point or maybe they have different Volumes numbers for different records.

Hi Mary,

Thanks for checking again, I will phone up tomorrow and ask them to check as I have a few to order from the area.

Thanks once again for your help hopefully I will get a few more leads when I get the cert's I will let you know.

Kind regards Paula

Hi Paula looked at that death twice it says 1a,maybe an error.

Maryb

Hi Mary

Henry/Aubrey was in the army his dad was foreman in jam factory he was deceased when Henry married Elizabeth P Long.

The reg you gave 1a it is just that the code for Cumberland is 10b so am bit confused.

Thanks again for your help.

Paula

Hi Paula was Aubrey /Henry in the army or did you mean his dad.

I was asking about Henry 1881's dad's occupation on marriage certificate of Henry and Elizabeth's.

Sorry for all the questions.

Maryb

Hi Christine,

Thank you for your reply, I am going to send for the death cert for Henry A Porter first and that will tell me if he did remarry after Elizabeth died which I beleive I may have found the death reg for that one and work from there.

Thanks again Paula

Hi Mary,

Sorry I did not reply sooner but I had a hospital appointment and not long got back.

I do have the marriage cert of Henry Porter and Elizabeth P Long the 1911 census details you put up the other child was my grandfather Joseph.

On the marriage cert his occupation was soldier in Army Medical Corps.
They had another son named Sydney born in Nov 1917 and under the occupation it says Private R A M C then it has Flying cannot make out next thing and then also postman.
I did have contact with someone with the parents names you listed but they said there Henry died in London and mine moved to Carlisle. Thankyou for the death reg I had not got that.
Kind regards Paula

My name is Frances and I am a girl - Francis is the blokes version

Do you have Henry's marriage certificate to Elizabeth Pearson Long.
Does it say his dad was henry? if so what was his occupation and address at time of marriage.

There was Henry 1880 born Lambeth London with parents Henry Porter London City 1854 and Clara 1853 nee Drake.

Henry junior with them 1881/1891 but not 1901.

I can't find relevent Aubrey/Henry in 1901.

Maryb

1911 Aubrey Porter labourer born Soho 1881
Elizabeth born 1883 carlisle married 6 years
May 1905
Robert 1908
It says Hbeth son 1901.

Living in Carlisle.

Is it Aubrey /Henry's parents you are trying to find?

Maryb
Death Aubrey h Porter age 83 in Cockermouth Cumberland in 1964 = born 1881 1a 71.

Hi JulieInTheBuff,

Thanks for that I am not sure I have my gr grandfather who named Henry Porter he also went by the name of Aubrey he was born c 1881, just trying to find different ways of trying to find out about them.
On the 1911 census Henry was down as living in Carlisle but went under the name of Aubrey it also said he was born Soho London so just clutching at straws.

Thanks so much for looking up for me.

Kind regards Paula

A birth for the Frances on the 1901

Births Mar 1873 (>99%)
Porter Frances Penrith 10b 441

If you want to know it this is your Frances unfortunately you'll need to buy the cert but..this is the nearest i can see for them on the census...does her age match

Frances Graham
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Cumb, Hesket
Civil parish: Lazonby
Ecclesiastical parish: Lazonby St Nicholas
Town: Lazonby
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Penrith
Sub-registration district: Kirkoswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Graham 37
Frances Graham 28
Joseph P Graham 1

Hi JulieintheBuff

Yes that is the one I know it may be a long shot but you never no.

Thanks Paula

This one

Marriages Mar 1899 (>99%)
Dalton Violet Carlisle 10b 705
Graham Robert Carlisle 10b 705
Gray Samuel James Carlisle 10b 705
Porter Frances Carlisle 10b 705

Hi

Thank you both for your replies, would it be possible if either of you have ancestry that you could look up if it was Frances Porter that married a Robert Graham it was in Carlisle Cumberland March 1899. vol 10b pg 705 as on free bmd there is other people listed.

Thank you both for your quick replies kind regards Paula

Easy to remember. HIM with an I, HER with an E.

Frances is a girl's name.
Francis is a boy's name.

However in census records I have often seen them both mis-recorded or mis-spelt.

Kath. x

Its a boy 's name. (Francis)

But Francis seems to be both female & male in my tree..!!