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Oops! Learn somthing new everyday..
The IGI is being very helpful at the moment :D

I'm using Ancestry for the census' (Although I only have one day left of my membership) and also using the family search website.

Thats a hard one Talia, as it often is the further you get back!

However I thought I saw on one census he was saying he was born Dedham Essex! Which site are you using for your census, are you looking at the original pages?

I did find these born to a James & Elizabeth Rudge Stepney

James 1809
Ann 1810
Henry 1813
Mary 1813
John 1815

I had a quick search on Henry 1813 on the 1841 and he is also a shoemaker and living same place as James.....a connection?

Ann

County - not country.

1841 asks if born in county or not. He was not born in Middx. He could have been born in Kent. And back then, Kent was much closer to Middx than it is now.

Have a rummage for him on the IGI ...

Jill

My mistake, it all adds up.
When I looked it at I thought that Thomas Rudge was born out of the country which he wasn't.

I found the 1851 census for James Rudge now which matches up with the 1841 you found as theyre living on the same road. One says he was born out of the country and the other doesn't.. Is there any way of finding out where he was really from?

Talia,

Am not really with you on your last post, have you looked at the 1841 result I posted, and do you think that is the incorrect family?

Annx

Just noticed on the 1841 census that I found for Thomas Rudge, it appears he was born out of the country to.. However on the 1851 it says he was born in Kent..? The James Rudge 1841 matches up with Thomas, but everything else doesnt. :\

Talia,

This could be the Rudge family in 1841

Parnaham Street, St Ann Limehouse ,Tower Hamlets Middlesex

James Rudge 1786 born out of county shoemaker
Elizabeth Rudge 1786 born Middlesex
Emma Rudge 1821 born MIDDLESEX
Jane Rudge 1827 born Middlesex

Annx

Thank you!
Started doing that and I have a huge list which i'm noting down on notepad at the moment, soo many kids i'm going to have to sift through now.. wish me luck aha.

Talia

Play around in the familysearch site. Once you get to grips with it it is so useful.

When you want to find siblings of a child you click on the number beginning with C at the bottom left. Fill out mum and dad's forenames in the boxes that pop up and hit return.

You should then get a list of children with those parents. With Carter being a fairly common name they may not all be yours - but check them out. If they follow a logical pattern over a finite period of years they could well be siblings. Sometimes you get a really long list and have to work out which are the possible/likely siblings.

The eldest sibling will give you some indication of when the parents might have married (assuming they married before the first child was born!) and that would make it easier to track down a possible marriage. Also, working out when the eldest child was born/baptised would give you more of an idea of the parents' ages and therefore make it easier to see if you can find them on the censuses.

Jill

Talia,

The info Mrs Grumpy gave you regarding the Christening record of Louisa, if you take her advice and do a parent search on the IGI, you may find other siblings.........this will maybe allow you to find the carter family on the 1841..........there is a James & Sarah Carter on the 1841 in Stepney although he is not listed as a butcher at that time.

Annx

Bit of a stupid question.. But how do I do that? I'm not very good with the IGI thingy and I don't yet know who Louisa's siblings are.

Check out Louisa's siblings on the IGI. That will give you some idea of when her parents married.

Carter is a fairly common name so it can be a bit of a struggle.

Rudge is probably a bit rarer so he might be easier.

Jill

Just managed to find the 1841 Rudge/Carter Census with you guys help! Thank you :)

I'm still having trouble finding Thomas & Louisa whilst they were still living with their parents though, So far I only know their parents names.. I really would like to find out where they were from and the years they were born.

EDIT:
So far I know that Thomas Rudge was born 1818 in Kent, to James Rudge and Elizabeth unknown, also unknown what years they were born.

Louisa Carter was born 1821 in Stepney, to James Carter and Sarah Unknown, Also unknown what years they were born.

Her baptism is on the IGI - familysearch - so you should be able to pick up the siblings as well.

Jill

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
Search Results | Download | Print

LOUISA CARTER Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
17 NOV 1821
Christening:
30 DEC 1821 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JAMES CARTER Family
Mother: SARAH

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C055762 1813 - 1816 0595420 Film 6902926 Film
C055762 1816 - 1826 0595421 Film 6902926 Film
C055762 1826 - 1832 0596913 Film 6902926 Film
Sheet: 00

1841 poss
Name: Thomas Rudge
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Anne Limehouse
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Limehouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Rudge 20
Louisa Rudge 20
Thomas Rudge 2

Talia,

Looks like the family on the 1841 Middlesex with Thomas Jnr aged 2, so search on him and you will find them.

Annx

Glitter Baby, yes that is the family, it took me ages to find that one!
S Rudge would of been my 3x great nan.
No idea why it says "british subject" though.. from the other census I found it said that they were from Kent or somthing.

Yes of course.

Send me a PM with your e-mail addie as I can't attach it on here.

Jill

Baptised 30 Dec 1821.

Born: 17 November.

Addr: MEOT

Dad was a labourer.

Jill

1851 is this the right family?
Name: T Rudge
[Thomas Rudge]
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: L
Gender: Male
Where born: British Subject

Civil parish: Stepney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Dunstan Stepney
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Ratcliff
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 165
Household Members: Name Age
T Rudge 32
L Rudge 28
T Rudge 11
L Rudge 6
J Rudge 4
S Rudge 2
E Rudge 1week
S Carter 16
C Peachey 19
H Wiler 18