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I take it you have noticed that the last quarter (which he'll be listed in )is missing on freebmd when looking for a marriage for John White!

HI
I HAVE MARY ON 1861 CENCUS
as a domestic servant at 105 woodhall house
AND ON 1871 CENCUS
AS GENERAL SERVANT
LIVING 67 BRIDGE STREET
BOTH PERSHORE
JOHN

hi
i have got igi extracted, for mary white
17 SEPTEMBER 1844 NORTON JUXTA KEMPSEY WORCESTER
AND SHE IS ON MARRAIGE CERT
AS SPINSTER AGE 34
BEST WISHES
JOHN

hi ya
yes mary white marride thomas orton in 1879,
i have traced back from alice may orton born 1903
who marride staveley hill in 1922,
john

How did you get BACK to these people?

Have you started with yourself and worked backwards, checking every generation?

1861

Name: Maria White
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Defford, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Norton Juxta Kempsey
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Pershore
Sub-registration district: Pershore
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 113
Household Members: Name Age
John White 44
Maria White 39
James White 10
Fanny White 8
Charles White 6
Eliza J White 3
Elizabeth White 4 days

Interesting.....................

White, British Isles
Father: John , Mother: Maria
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: C024802

1. MARY WHITE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 SEP 1844 Norton Juxta Kempsey, Worcester, England

2. CHARLES WHITE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 07 JAN 1855 Norton Juxta Kempsey, Worcester, England

3. ANNE WHITE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 02 JUN 1861 Norton Juxta Kempsey, Worcester, England

4. JOHN WHITE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 JUL 1863 Norton Juxta Kempsey, Worcester, England

There were no penalties until 1875 for failure to register births - it may be that none of them was actually registered.

George, Emma, James, and the child born later (Fanny) are on the same Batch number on the IGI.............no Mary.

Posting for reference ONLY

White, British Isles
Father: John , Mother: Maria
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: C046211

1. EMMA WHITE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 SEP 1848 Whittington, Worcester, England

2. GEORGE WHITE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 11 OCT 1846 Whittington, Worcester, England

3. JAMES WHITE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 SEP 1850 Whittington, Worcester, England

4. FANNY WHITE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 21 NOV 1852 Whittington, Worcester, England


Mary's birthplace as per 1851 census was NORTON

AAAAAAAAAAAARGH.

Fool me, I keep assuming there are reasons for people's questions and I should just know better by now.

Random names dug up from the IGI is all.

hi ya
i have not got no evidence , that hunt is right
i knew john whites spouse was marie, so searched all worcester
igi maraiges for john white and a maria,
and that was the only one i could find,
may be i should be looking for marie guise if elizabeth guise
is her daughter on cencus,
could be she was marride before
best wishes
john
ps it is there daughter mary aged 6 on cencus that i am struggling with
can not ind birth index for her, only one i can find would make her same age as george who is 2 years younger on cencus

1851 census in full - for info ONLY -

Name: John White
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Maria
Gender: Male
Where born: Ripple, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Worcester St Peter
Ecclesiastical parish: Worcester
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Worcester
Sub-registration district: West Worcester
ED, institution, or vessel: 7a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
John White 33
Maria White 39 born Defford
Mary White 6
George White 4
Emma White 3
James White 9 Mo
Elizabeth Guise 13 DAUGHTER , b. White Lady Aston, Worcs (probably Maria's daughter )


What made you latch on to Maria HUNT? Do you have a child's birth cert?

hi ya
i have got 1851 cencus
as born 1818 ripple worcestershire
living middle bottom hall
ag labourer
john

I think I would be surprised if John's White and Hunt married in 1843 at the ages of 54 and 47.


Good luck John!

We do seem to go around and around Freewheel!

I doubt that accuracy is the issue.

I expect that John wants the **other information** that is on a marriage certificate, like **fathers' names** and, if you're lucky, **spouses' ages**, and fathers' occupations, and witnesses' names, and the rest of it.

Don't you think maybe?

hi ya
yes i need to send for mar cert, to progress further with my search,
i have checked john white marriages 1840 to1844,
and the only one i can find on bmd
is 1844 jun 18 664
thanks for all your help
john

1851 England Census
about John White
Name: John White
Age: 62
Estimated birth year: abt 1789
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Meria >>>> maria
Mother's Name: Susannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Pendock,
Worcestershire,
England
Civil parish: Birtsmorton
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:Disability:
Registration district: Upton On Severn
Sub-registration district: Hanley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
John White 62
Meria White 55
Harriett White 18
Samuel White 16
Susannah White 92 >>>> johns mother

I'm aware that he wants the registration - I was pointing out that the IGI record was extracted, which John didn't mention, and therefore likely to be accurate!

John, I said that. I think that must be a different Maria Hunt.

What you could do is look for a John White marriage anywhere in Q4 1843 and then view the image, just to make sure yours isn't there and got skipped over by the transcribers

I've been trying to do just that but it seems to be a heavy traffic moment and FreeBMD isn't coping with that very simple request.

Freewheel, John said that. He wants a registration, I imagine because of the info it could provide, e.g. father's names.

hi ya
on freebmd there is an equale amount of femails and males
so i am not shaw this is the right index i have got,
john