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BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 29 Dec 2009 16:02

Here's Gladys;


1920 United States Federal Census
about Gladys Muir
Name: Gladys Muir
Home in 1920: Barberton Ward 1, Summit, Ohio
Age: 20 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's name: Robert W
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Year of Immigration: 1913
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 701
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert W Muir 31
Gladys Muir 20
Gladys D Muir 1 5/12


1930 United States Federal Census
about Robet W Muir
Name: Robet W Muir
Home in 1930: Rochester, Monroe, New York
View Map
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Birthplace: New York
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Gladep
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robet W Muir 41
Gladep Muir 30
Gladep D Muir 11
Inez Muir 6/12


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 29 Dec 2009 15:57

Not sure if the bBarbeau family is linked, the marriage does look like Barbour and here they are;

1920 United States Federal Census
about Albert Barbour
Name: Albert Barbour
[Albert Barbear]
Home in 1920: Buffalo Ward 20, Erie, New York
Age: 26 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Birthplace: Ireland
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birth Place: Ireland
Mother's Birth Place: Ireland
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Year of Immigration: 1919
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 1008
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Albert W Gilliland 57
Emma J Gilliland 54
Harry A Gilliland 29
Evelyn K Gilliland 21
Nellie K Gilliland 2 4/12
Lanora Roth 74
Albert Barbour 26
Amy Barbour 22


And mistranscribed, but image states Barbour;


1930 United States Federal Census
about Albert Barbone
Name: Albert Barbone
Home in 1930: Buffalo, Erie, New York
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Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Birthplace: Ireland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Amy
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Barbone 37
Amy Barbone 32
Norma Barbone 9
Allen Barbone 6


Dee x

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 29 Dec 2009 15:40

Paul, you don't happen to have a Sidney B. True, born 6 May, 1871 England in your tree?

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 29 Dec 2009 15:22

I would go with Barbeau being the correct spelling for sure, Ancestry makes a terrible hash of the information in the Ontario BMD registers. Perhaps Dee or someone would check the image to be sure.

Paul

Paul Report 29 Dec 2009 15:13

I would imagine that the Barbour's and Barbeau's are the same people Dee - I'm certainly working on that being the case.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 29 Dec 2009 15:09

I wonder if the pallbearer Albert Barbeau is the same chap that one of the girls married Albert Barbour??


Dee x

Paul

Paul Report 29 Dec 2009 13:46

Thanks Margaret - I cannot believe the information I've got from this one question

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 29 Dec 2009 13:44

From Niagara Falls Gazette, 29 Jan. 1935"
Niagara Falls, Ontario:
Funeral services held for Maria True, widow of Thomas True yesterday. Interment Fairview Cemetery. Pallbearers Albert Barbeau, William Barbeau, Hugh Jenkins, John Roberts, William Barbeau Jr. and George Atkinson Jr.

Paul

Paul Report 29 Dec 2009 13:34

You are a star Dee - yes the Jane Ethel will tie in with the Manchester marriage in 1920

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 29 Dec 2009 13:31

Prior to his marriage;

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Thomas True
Name: Thomas True
Birth Date: abt 1895
Age: 25
Port of Departure: St John, New Brunswick, Canada
Arrival Date: 12 Jan 1920
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Halifax
Ship Name: Scandinavian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Scandinavian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 109441


Travelling to; 97 Wellington St? Manchester

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 29 Dec 2009 13:25

Hi Paul,

looks like there is a Jane Ethel travelling with Thomas Jnr, would that tie in??? the original image for that record is very poor.


Dee x

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 29 Dec 2009 13:21

Both father and son enlisted for WW1 in Canada:

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php

Paul

Paul Report 29 Dec 2009 13:17

Can I assume Dee, on that last post of Thomas returning to Canada, he had a wife with him? The last I can find of this family is Thomas (junior) marrying in Manchester in the 1st quarter of 1920 - which would fit in with him going back in April.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 29 Dec 2009 13:16

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924
about Gladys True
Name: Gladys True
Birth Place: England
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Father Name: Thomas True
Mother Name: Marian Pickering
Spouse Name: Robert Wilson Muir
Spouse's Age: 28
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Spouse Birth Place: Rochester NY
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Burns Muir
Spouse Mother Name: Sarah Jane Stone Muir
Marriage Date: 6 Oct 1917
Marriage Place: Lincoln
Marriage County: Lincoln
Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_423


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 29 Dec 2009 13:16

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924
about Amy True
Name: Amy True
Birth Place: Man Chester Eng
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Father Name: Thomas True
Mother Name: Maria Pickering
Spouse Name: Albert Barbour
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Spouse Birth Place: Belfast Ireland
Spouse Father Name: John Barbour
Spouse Mother Name: Margaret Allen
Marriage Date: 29 Nov 1916
Marriage Place: York
Marriage County: York
Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_376


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 29 Dec 2009 13:14

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Thomas True
Name: Thomas True
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 6 Mar 1920
Vessel: Empress of France
Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of France' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: St John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14839


Address St catherines.

Occupation Carpenter


dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 29 Dec 2009 13:12

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about Thomas True
Name: Thomas True
Gender: Male
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Birth Place: Manchester, England
Age: 25
Date of Arrival: Apr 1920
Port of Arrival: Saint John, New Brunswick
Ship Name: Empress of France



Reurning home to Mother True, Catherine St. St. Catherines



Dee x

Paul

Paul Report 29 Dec 2009 13:11

Astra got in before I even asked - brilliant - thanks very much Dee & Astra

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 29 Dec 2009 13:10

Canadian Soldiers of World War I, 1914-1918
about Thomas True
Name: Thomas True
Birth Date: 6 Sep 1894
Birth Location: Manchester, England
Relative: Maria True
Regiment Number: 42065


Paul

Paul Report 29 Dec 2009 13:10

Thank you very much Dee...a family mystery is beginning to reveal itself now. Was there any sign of Thomas and Thomas junior?