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On the 1911 census, there is Thomas True (age 41), Maria True (38), and children Thomas (16), Amy (13) and Gladys (11). I believe this family emmigrated to Canada not long after this census, probably before 1918, as there is a 'Canadian' soldier in WW1 with next of kin Maria True and I can find no records of any of this family after 1920. Is there anyone with access to the records to verify this?

Hi Paul,

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Maria True
Name: Maria True
Gender: Female
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Date of Arrival: 18 Jul 1913
Vessel: Tunisian
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Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4800


Travelling with Amy and Gladys.


Dee x

Canadian Soldiers of World War I, 1914-1918
about Thomas True
Name: Thomas True
Residence: Catharines, Canada
Birth Date: 13 Apr 1872
Birth Location: Newton, Cheshire, England
Relative: Maria True
Relationship: Wife
Regiment Number: 2497573
Previous occupation; Blacksmith

Address 35 Catherine Street, St Catherines Canada

Dee x

Thomas and Thomas Jr

Thos True
Gender: Male
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 28 Mar 1913
Vessel: Empress of Ireland
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Port of Arrival: St.John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4828

Thank you very much Dee...a family mystery is beginning to reveal itself now. Was there any sign of Thomas and Thomas junior?

Canadian Soldiers of World War I, 1914-1918
about Thomas True
Name: Thomas True
Birth Date: 6 Sep 1894
Birth Location: Manchester, England
Relative: Maria True
Regiment Number: 42065

Astra got in before I even asked - brilliant - thanks very much Dee & Astra

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about Thomas True
Name: Thomas True
Gender: Male
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Birth Place: Manchester, England
Age: 25
Date of Arrival: Apr 1920
Port of Arrival: Saint John, New Brunswick
Ship Name: Empress of France



Reurning home to Mother True, Catherine St. St. Catherines



Dee x

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Thomas True
Name: Thomas True
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 6 Mar 1920
Vessel: Empress of France
Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of France' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: St John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14839


Address St catherines.

Occupation Carpenter


dee x

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924
about Amy True
Name: Amy True
Birth Place: Man Chester Eng
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Father Name: Thomas True
Mother Name: Maria Pickering
Spouse Name: Albert Barbour
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Spouse Birth Place: Belfast Ireland
Spouse Father Name: John Barbour
Spouse Mother Name: Margaret Allen
Marriage Date: 29 Nov 1916
Marriage Place: York
Marriage County: York
Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_376


Dee x

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924
about Gladys True
Name: Gladys True
Birth Place: England
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Father Name: Thomas True
Mother Name: Marian Pickering
Spouse Name: Robert Wilson Muir
Spouse's Age: 28
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Spouse Birth Place: Rochester NY
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Burns Muir
Spouse Mother Name: Sarah Jane Stone Muir
Marriage Date: 6 Oct 1917
Marriage Place: Lincoln
Marriage County: Lincoln
Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_423


Dee x

Can I assume Dee, on that last post of Thomas returning to Canada, he had a wife with him? The last I can find of this family is Thomas (junior) marrying in Manchester in the 1st quarter of 1920 - which would fit in with him going back in April.

Both father and son enlisted for WW1 in Canada:

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php

Hi Paul,

looks like there is a Jane Ethel travelling with Thomas Jnr, would that tie in??? the original image for that record is very poor.


Dee x

Prior to his marriage;

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Thomas True
Name: Thomas True
Birth Date: abt 1895
Age: 25
Port of Departure: St John, New Brunswick, Canada
Arrival Date: 12 Jan 1920
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Halifax
Ship Name: Scandinavian
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Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 109441


Travelling to; 97 Wellington St? Manchester

You are a star Dee - yes the Jane Ethel will tie in with the Manchester marriage in 1920

From Niagara Falls Gazette, 29 Jan. 1935"
Niagara Falls, Ontario:
Funeral services held for Maria True, widow of Thomas True yesterday. Interment Fairview Cemetery. Pallbearers Albert Barbeau, William Barbeau, Hugh Jenkins, John Roberts, William Barbeau Jr. and George Atkinson Jr.

Thanks Margaret - I cannot believe the information I've got from this one question

I wonder if the pallbearer Albert Barbeau is the same chap that one of the girls married Albert Barbour??


Dee x

I would imagine that the Barbour's and Barbeau's are the same people Dee - I'm certainly working on that being the case.