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Rosalind
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26 Oct 2009 21:50 |
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Hi all I've not been doing this long and have now become stuck! Have traced my g grandfather who was born in Raydon Suffolk and his marriage to Sarah Ann Ward in 1878 - on marriage cert it states his father as Edward Sallow Hicks (same name!) deceased - Farmer. I have found gg Grandfather E S Hicks but can find no trace of siblings. According to my late mum the story was that GGG was a squire who had 3 sons and 2 daughters - his Son Edward ran off with the cook and was disinherited......... (this is the story I was told) Edward married Sarah and they moved to Colchester then Twickenham and had 6 children the youngest being my grandfather William (Willie) Hicks. I cannot find any trace of siblings for Edward born 1851!!
EDWARD SALLOW HICKS b 1806c SUFFOLK married ELIZA SALLOWS 1857 IPSWIC, SUFFOLK EDWARD SALLOW HICKS b 1851 - Raydon Suffolk have come totally stuck!! Sorry about long windedness - this is my first go at posting a message! Would appreciate any help from anyone. Thanks Roz
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GlitterBaby
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26 Oct 2009 22:05 |
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1881 I presume this is him
Name: Edward Hicks Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah A. Gender: Male Where born: Raydon, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Colchester St Giles County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: No 16 Essex Str Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Carriage Maker Registration district: Colchester Sub-registration district: Colchester First Ward ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edward Hicks 28 Sarah A. Hicks 25 Edward Hicks 1
Have you managed to find him in 1871 or 1861?
Gives same place of birth in 1891
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26 Oct 2009 22:10 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EDWARD SALLOWS HICKS Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 07 DEC 1851 Reydon, Suffolk, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: EDWARD SALLOWS HICKS Mother: ELIZA
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C063031 1813 - 1863 0919628 Film 883934 Film Sheet: 00
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MargaretM
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26 Oct 2009 22:11 |
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BVRI has this son of Edward Sallow Hicks:
HICKS, Edward Timpesley Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 2 Sep 1853 Christening Date: 21 Mar 1854 Recorded in: Sproughton, Suffolk, England Collection: BTs Father: Edward Sallows HICKS Mother: Elizer BERRY Source: FHL Film 952446 Dates: 1854 - 1859
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26 Oct 2009 22:18 |
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Hi found him in 1871 cant view the other page to see who else is in household 1871 census Name Edward Hicks Age 19 Estimated Year of Birth 1852 Relationship to Head of Household Servant Occupation Coach Builder Address No 93 Berillia Building District St Matthew, Ipswich Parish Administrative County Suffolk Birth Place Raydon Birth County Suffolk
with him on same page is his aunt 1871 census Name Hannah Hicks Age 72 Estimated Year of Birth 1799 Relationship to Head of Household Aunt Occupation ? Address No 93 Berillia Building District St Matthew, Ipswich Parish Administrative County Suffolk Birth Place Branford Birth County Suffolk
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PollyPoppet
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26 Oct 2009 22:21 |
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1901 census Address 1 Second Cross Rd Civil Parish Twickenham Rural District Town or Village or Hamlet Ecclesiastical Parish Holy Trinity Parliamentary Borough or Division Brentford County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Twickenham Administrative County Middlesex Householder 1 Name Edward Hicks Relation to Head of Family Head Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 48 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Carriage Maker Employment Status Where Born Suffolk Raydon Language Infirmity Householder 2 Name George Hicks Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 19 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Loco Engine Cleaner Employment Status Where Born Essex Alchester Language Infirmity Householder 3 Name Katie Hicks Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 13 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Scholar Employment Status Where Born Middx Twickenham Language Infirmity Householder 4 Name Sarah Hicks Relation to Head of Family Wife Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 46 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Suffolk Leaven Heath Language Infirmity Householder 5 Name Willie Hicks Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 9 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Scholar Employment Status Where Born Middx Twickenham Language Infirmity
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Pam
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26 Oct 2009 22:22 |
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. 1851 England Census about Edward Hicks Name: Edward Hicks Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Bramford, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Raydon County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: Registration district: Samford Sub-registration district: Capel St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 118 Household Members: Name Age Edward Hicks 44 Head Eliza Hicks 39 (should be 30) Wife Frances Hicks 49 Sister Hannah Rush 14 Servant Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1798; Folio: 154; Page: 29; GSU roll: 207447.
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Pam
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26 Oct 2009 22:29 |
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So did Edward Sallows Hicks marry Eliza Sallows ?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1851 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Battley Henry Ipswich 12 478 Hicks Edward Sallows Ipswich 12 478 Holt Thomas William Ipswich 12 478 Jones Amelia Ipswich 12 478 Knights Robert Ipswich 12 478 Lee Hannah Ipswich 12 478 Sallows Eliza Ipswich 12 478 Ward ELIZABETH IPSWICH 12 478
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Madmeg
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26 Oct 2009 22:33 |
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In 1841 there is just Edward and his sister Frances.
These are the occupants in 1871:
Henry Jackson 25 Emma Jackson 26 Charles H Jackson 2 Hannah Crapuall 14 Edward Hicks 19 Hannah Hicks 72
But I haven't found him in 1861.
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Rosalind
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26 Oct 2009 22:41 |
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Great thanks very much - it is the same one.
Got the birth cert for Edward 1851 & it state his mother was Eliza Hicks late Sallows formerly Berry - does this mean she had been married before? I have traced Edward 1851 to Twickenham but have found no siblings for him, - also can't find his mum or dad after 1951 census - any ideas?
Think I found Edward b 1851 in the 1871 census age 19 living in Ipswich with Hannah Hicks age 72 (an Aunt perhaps) but 1861 don't know where he went!
According to my mum when his wife Sarah and youngest daughter Katie Hannah Hicks died of scarlet fever after 1901 census and before 1911 census 'he took to drink lost everything and burnt all papers in his depression birth certificates etc the lot' he did recover as he visited my mum about 1924 when she was ill.
Thanks again Roz
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Pam
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26 Oct 2009 23:26 |
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Are you sure she was Kate Hannah ? This is the only Kate I can find in the right area
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1898 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HICKS Kate Edith Brentford 3a 148
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Pam
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26 Oct 2009 23:31 |
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This is possibly Sarah's death but there is not record for Katie
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Sep 1908 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HICKS Sarah Ann 53 Brentford 3a 57
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Pam
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26 Oct 2009 23:35 |
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I know you say Edward S visited your mother abot 1924 but this looks like his death :
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Mar 1920 (94%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HICKS Edward S 67 Brentford 3a 109
aged 67 in 1920 gives birth year of 1853
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Madmeg
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26 Oct 2009 23:50 |
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Rosalind, yes, the birth certificate confirms that she was previous married.
So this baptism that Marion found is interesting:
HICKS, Edward Timpesley Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 2 Sep 1853 Christening Date: 21 Mar 1854 Recorded in: Sproughton, Suffolk, England Collection: BTs Father: Edward Sallows HICKS Mother: Elizer BERRY Source: FHL Film 952446 Dates: 1854 - 1859
Was 2 September your g grandfather's birthdate?
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Pam
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27 Oct 2009 08:49 |
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I wonder if this is your Kate Hannah Hicks:
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Kate Hannah Hicks Name: Kate Hannah Hicks Spouse Name: Harry Thomas Seaman Record Type: Banns Event Date: 2 May 1915 Parish: Saint James, Hampton Hill County: Middlesex Borough: Richmond Upon Thames
Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint James, Hampton Hill, Register of banns of marriage, DRO/083, Item 018
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Pam
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27 Oct 2009 09:15 |
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Found Death Registration for Kate H Seaman.
Kate H. Seaman 29 Kingston MQ 1917 Volume 2a (I think, bit blurred) Page 799.
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Pam
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27 Oct 2009 09:22 |
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Name: Harry Thomas Seaman Year of Registration: 1892 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Kingston County: Middlesex, Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 355
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Pam
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27 Oct 2009 09:25 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Sep 1908 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HICKS Sarah Ann 53 Brentford 3a 57
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27 Oct 2009 09:34 |
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1901 England Census about Harry J Seaman Name: Harry J (T) Seaman Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation: Grandchild Gender: Male Where born: West Molesey, Surrey, England Civil parish: Thames Ditton Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: Registration district: Kingston Sub-registration district: Esher ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Thomas P Clemens 59 Jane P Clemens 57 Annie Seaman 27 Daughter Herbert J Smith 16 Nephew Robert E Clemons 10 Grandchild Harry J Seaman 9 Grandchild born West Molesey, Surrey
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 669; Folio: 75; Page: 2.
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27 Oct 2009 09:37 |
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Parents for Harry Thomas:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1890 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Clemons Annie Kingston 2a 569
SEAMAN Robert Kingston 2a 569
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