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Edward Sallows Hicks 1851 his siblings

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Rosalind

Rosalind Report 26 Oct 2009 21:50

Hi all
I've not been doing this long and have now become stuck! Have traced my g grandfather who was born in Raydon Suffolk and his marriage to Sarah Ann Ward in 1878 - on marriage cert it states his father as Edward Sallow Hicks (same name!) deceased - Farmer.
I have found gg Grandfather E S Hicks but can find no trace of siblings.
According to my late mum the story was that GGG was a squire who had 3 sons and 2 daughters - his Son Edward ran off with the cook and was disinherited......... (this is the story I was told) Edward married Sarah and they moved to Colchester then Twickenham and had 6 children the youngest being my grandfather William (Willie) Hicks.
I cannot find any trace of siblings for Edward born 1851!!

EDWARD SALLOW HICKS b 1806c SUFFOLK married ELIZA SALLOWS 1857 IPSWIC, SUFFOLK
EDWARD SALLOW HICKS b 1851 - Raydon Suffolk
have come totally stuck!!
Sorry about long windedness - this is my first go at posting a message!
Would appreciate any help from anyone.
Thanks Roz

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 26 Oct 2009 22:05

1881 I presume this is him

Name: Edward Hicks
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah A.
Gender: Male
Where born: Raydon, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Colchester St Giles
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address: No 16 Essex Str
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Carriage Maker

Registration district: Colchester
Sub-registration district: Colchester First Ward
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Hicks 28
Sarah A. Hicks 25
Edward Hicks 1



Have you managed to find him in 1871 or 1861?


Gives same place of birth in 1891

Pam

Pam Report 26 Oct 2009 22:10


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EDWARD SALLOWS HICKS
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 07 DEC 1851 Reydon, Suffolk, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: EDWARD SALLOWS HICKS
Mother: ELIZA


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C063031 1813 - 1863 0919628 Film 883934 Film


Sheet: 00

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Oct 2009 22:11

BVRI has this son of Edward Sallow Hicks:

HICKS, Edward Timpesley Christening
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 2 Sep 1853
Christening Date: 21 Mar 1854 Recorded in: Sproughton, Suffolk, England
Collection: BTs
Father: Edward Sallows HICKS
Mother: Elizer BERRY
Source: FHL Film 952446 Dates: 1854 - 1859

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 26 Oct 2009 22:18

Hi found him in 1871 cant view the other page to see who else is in household
1871 census

Name Edward Hicks
Age 19
Estimated Year of Birth 1852
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation Coach Builder
Address No 93 Berillia Building
District St Matthew, Ipswich
Parish
Administrative County Suffolk
Birth Place Raydon
Birth County Suffolk

with him on same page is his aunt
1871 census

Name Hannah Hicks
Age 72
Estimated Year of Birth 1799
Relationship to Head of Household Aunt
Occupation ?
Address No 93 Berillia Building
District St Matthew, Ipswich
Parish
Administrative County Suffolk
Birth Place Branford
Birth County Suffolk

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 26 Oct 2009 22:21

1901 census

Address 1 Second Cross Rd
Civil Parish Twickenham
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish Holy Trinity
Parliamentary Borough or Division Brentford
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Twickenham
Administrative County Middlesex
Householder 1
Name Edward Hicks
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 48
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Carriage Maker
Employment Status
Where Born Suffolk Raydon
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name George Hicks
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 19
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Loco Engine Cleaner
Employment Status
Where Born Essex Alchester
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Katie Hicks
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 13
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Scholar
Employment Status
Where Born Middx Twickenham
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Sarah Hicks
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 46
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Suffolk Leaven Heath
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name Willie Hicks
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 9
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Scholar
Employment Status
Where Born Middx Twickenham
Language
Infirmity

Pam

Pam Report 26 Oct 2009 22:22

.
1851 England Census
about Edward Hicks
Name: Edward Hicks
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Bramford, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Raydon
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

Registration district: Samford
Sub-registration district: Capel St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 118
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Hicks 44 Head
Eliza Hicks 39 (should be 30) Wife
Frances Hicks 49 Sister
Hannah Rush 14 Servant

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1798; Folio: 154; Page: 29; GSU roll: 207447.

Pam

Pam Report 26 Oct 2009 22:29

So did Edward Sallows Hicks marry Eliza Sallows ?

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Marriages Mar 1851 (>99%)
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Battley Henry Ipswich 12 478
Hicks Edward Sallows Ipswich 12 478
Holt Thomas William Ipswich 12 478
Jones Amelia Ipswich 12 478
Knights Robert Ipswich 12 478
Lee Hannah Ipswich 12 478
Sallows Eliza Ipswich 12 478
Ward ELIZABETH IPSWICH 12 478

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 26 Oct 2009 22:33

In 1841 there is just Edward and his sister Frances.

These are the occupants in 1871:

Henry Jackson 25
Emma Jackson 26
Charles H Jackson 2
Hannah Crapuall 14
Edward Hicks 19
Hannah Hicks 72

But I haven't found him in 1861.

Rosalind

Rosalind Report 26 Oct 2009 22:41

Great thanks very much - it is the same one.

Got the birth cert for Edward 1851 & it state his mother was Eliza Hicks late Sallows formerly Berry - does this mean she had been married before?
I have traced Edward 1851 to Twickenham but have found no siblings for him, - also can't find his mum or dad after 1951 census - any ideas?

Think I found Edward b 1851 in the 1871 census age 19 living in Ipswich with Hannah Hicks age 72 (an Aunt perhaps) but 1861 don't know where he went!

According to my mum when his wife Sarah and youngest daughter Katie Hannah Hicks died of scarlet fever after 1901 census and before 1911 census
'he took to drink lost everything and burnt all papers in his depression birth certificates etc the lot'
he did recover as he visited my mum about 1924 when she was ill.

Thanks again Roz

Pam

Pam Report 26 Oct 2009 23:26

Are you sure she was Kate Hannah ? This is the only Kate I can find in the right area


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Births Sep 1898 (>99%)
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HICKS Kate Edith Brentford 3a 148

Pam

Pam Report 26 Oct 2009 23:31

This is possibly Sarah's death but there is not record for Katie


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Deaths Sep 1908 (>99%)
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HICKS Sarah Ann 53 Brentford 3a 57

Pam

Pam Report 26 Oct 2009 23:35

I know you say Edward S visited your mother abot 1924 but this looks like his death :


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Deaths Mar 1920 (94%)
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HICKS Edward S 67 Brentford 3a 109



aged 67 in 1920 gives birth year of 1853

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 26 Oct 2009 23:50

Rosalind, yes, the birth certificate confirms that she was previous married.

So this baptism that Marion found is interesting:

HICKS, Edward Timpesley Christening
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 2 Sep 1853
Christening Date: 21 Mar 1854 Recorded in: Sproughton, Suffolk, England
Collection: BTs
Father: Edward Sallows HICKS
Mother: Elizer BERRY
Source: FHL Film 952446 Dates: 1854 - 1859

Was 2 September your g grandfather's birthdate?

Pam

Pam Report 27 Oct 2009 08:49

I wonder if this is your Kate Hannah Hicks:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Kate Hannah Hicks
Name: Kate Hannah Hicks
Spouse Name: Harry Thomas Seaman
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 2 May 1915
Parish: Saint James, Hampton Hill
County: Middlesex
Borough: Richmond Upon Thames


Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint James, Hampton Hill, Register of banns of marriage, DRO/083, Item 018

Pam

Pam Report 27 Oct 2009 09:15

Found Death Registration for Kate H Seaman.

Kate H. Seaman 29 Kingston MQ 1917 Volume 2a (I think, bit blurred) Page 799.

Pam

Pam Report 27 Oct 2009 09:22

Name: Harry Thomas Seaman
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Kingston
County: Middlesex, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 355

Pam

Pam Report 27 Oct 2009 09:25


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Deaths Sep 1908 (>99%)
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HICKS Sarah Ann 53 Brentford 3a 57

Pam

Pam Report 27 Oct 2009 09:34

1901 England Census
about Harry J Seaman
Name: Harry J (T) Seaman
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Grandchild
Gender: Male
Where born: West Molesey, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Thames Ditton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Esher
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas P Clemens 59
Jane P Clemens 57
Annie Seaman 27 Daughter
Herbert J Smith 16 Nephew
Robert E Clemons 10 Grandchild
Harry J Seaman 9 Grandchild born West Molesey, Surrey




Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 669; Folio: 75; Page: 2.

Pam

Pam Report 27 Oct 2009 09:37

Parents for Harry Thomas:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1890 (>99%)
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Clemons Annie Kingston 2a 569

SEAMAN Robert Kingston 2a 569