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Eileen

Eileen Report 13 Sep 2009 15:48

My grandmother born 1882 Lancashire fathers name was William Copple.

Need birth certificate details so I can send for same.
She married John Turner In 1919.
would also like to find his d.o.b and mothers name.
Can anyone help?

Thankyou
Eileen E.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 13 Sep 2009 16:07

Have you already got her marriage cert? Do you know where she got married?

Eileen

Eileen Report 13 Sep 2009 16:38

Hi Londonbelle,

Yes I have their marriage certificate they weremarried in the Parish of Charlestown Salford Lancs

October14th 1914

Eileen

Eileen Report 13 Sep 2009 16:47

Hi London bell,
Yes I do they were married IN parish of Charlestown Salford October 1914.
Have noticed I put 1919 on first posting sorry.
My computer is becoming temperamental
Salford is in Lancashire
Cheers
Eileen E.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 13 Sep 2009 16:47

Are you sure that Mary was born in 1882? or could it be 1892?

Eileen

Eileen Report 13 Sep 2009 16:53

Her first son was born 1917, my father 1919 and youngest son born 1923
so could perhaps have been 1992

Eileen

Eileen Report 13 Sep 2009 16:53

Her first son was born 1917, my father 1919 and youngest son born 1923
so could perhaps have been 1992

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 13 Sep 2009 16:58

How old did it say she was on the marriage cert? and what occupation was given for her father?

Eileen

Eileen Report 13 Sep 2009 17:10


SHE WAS 22 and her father was a labourer

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 13 Sep 2009 17:23

Did the cert say whether her father was deceased? who were the witnesses? Also what was Mary's address on the cert?

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 13 Sep 2009 17:37

This could possibly be her family in the 1911 census

HOUSEHOLD COPPLE ERNEST M 1896 15 Salford Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD COPPLE FRED M 1901 10 Salford Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD COPPLE HENRY M 1899 12 Salford Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD COPPLE HUBERT M 1891 20 Salford Lancashire
>>>>HOUSEHOLD COPPLE MARY F 1892 19 Salford Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD COPPLE MARY ELIZABETH F 1854 57 Salford Lancashire

Do you know whether she had any brothers?

Eileen

Eileen Report 14 Sep 2009 17:55



Hi Londonbell,
Sorry for the delay but my computer has been playing up seems o.k. right now.
Her fathe was on the marriage lines he was a labourer name William and the address given was 18 cook street .

Eileen

Eileen Report 14 Sep 2009 18:45



Hi Londonbell.
I don't know about brothers. Witnesses were Herbert Copple (who appears on the Census you gave for 1911) and
Mary Jane Weaver.

Thankyou
Eileen

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 14 Sep 2009 22:57

A possible.

1891 England Census
about Herbert Copple
Name: Herbert Copple
Age: 1/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: New Brighton, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Liscard
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: New Brighton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Wallasey
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Copple 34 <<<labourer
Elizabeth Copple 32
William Copple 8
Ada Copple 6
Albert Copple 4
George Copple 2
Herbert Copple 1/12 <<<from 1911?



I am unable to find them in 1901 for some reason.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 14 Sep 2009 22:58

Births Mar 1891 (>99%)
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Copple Herbert Birkenhead 8a 571
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Births Mar 1893
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Copple Mary Elizabeth Birkenhead 8a 563


The district Birkenhead is an alternative name for Birkenhead and it spans the boundaries of the counties of Cheshire and Merseyside; information about it can be found

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 14 Sep 2009 23:10

Eileen

For anyone to be able to help find John Turner you will need to give his age ,fathers name and occupation from the marriage cert.

Eileen

Eileen Report 16 Sep 2009 00:46

Vivienne

Thankyou, John Tuners father was James and he was a labourer
only age is Johns who was 20 when he married
I am also trying to find birth of Mary Copple born c1854 Lancashire
Thankyou for your help

Eileen

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 16 Sep 2009 13:13

Sticking with the Copples for now.

1911
It comes up that she was born in Scotland.
But of course you will need to buy credits to view if you wish to verify it.

HOUSEHOLD COPPLE MARY ELIZABETH F 1854 57 Salford Lancashire

1891 England Census
about Elizabeth Copple
Name: Elizabeth Copple
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Liscard
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: New Brighton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Wallasey
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Copple 34
Elizabeth Copple 32
William Copple 8
Ada Copple 6
Albert Copple 4
George Copple 2
Herbert Copple 1/12

You will need to send for Herbert or Mary Elizabeths birth cert to get thier mothers maiden name to be able to find a birth for her in Scotland.

Which should then be on,,,scotlandspeople,,,pay per view only.
But you do get to view the certificate online for about 75pence and they hold far more info than english ones which cost £7.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 16 Sep 2009 17:03

there are 2 Mary Copples born in Aughton, bothe with mmn = Plumley

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1853
COPPLE Mary Elizabeth
Aughton
mmn=PLUMBLEY

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1855
COPPLE Mary
Aughton
mmn = PLUMBLEY

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 16 Sep 2009 18:06

Prob the first one died and the next was named for her?

possible marriage for William Copple,it may be a late one being after the births of some of the children, or a second marriage?

Take your pick time,or are they both the same gent and lady with a mistranscription?

Marriages Mar 1887 (>99%)
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Coppack William Birkenhead 8a 676
>>>Copple William Birkenhead 8a 676
TOMLINSON Elizabeth Birkenhead 8a 676
TRACEY Elizabeth Birkenhead 8a 676