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Surname: Gatesman


Recorded in many spelling forms including Gatman, Gateman, Gatesman, Gaitsman, Yateman, Yetman, and Yatman, this is an English surname. It probably derives from the pre 7th century word 'geat', which can mean either a gate, as in gate of a city, or it may mean the street, where Viking influence has been brought to bear. For instance in the ancient city of York, the streets are known as 'gates,' and the gates of the city are called 'bars'. The surname is usually topographical and according to where the original nameholder(s) were to be found, described one who was resident by the town gate. Where the suffix -man is used, this is clearly job descriptive for one in charge of the 'geat'. Whether this was a road or a gate, would depend on the circumstances. Secondly the name can be locational from the town of Yate, near Bristol, which does mean 'gate',whilst a third possibility is from the Olde English word 'gat' meaning a goat, and hence a surname for a goatherd. Early examples of the surname recordings include Elizabeth Yetman, who married John Watts at Marnhull, in the county of Dorset, on October 12th 1585, whilst Andrew Gateman married Anne Thorn at St James church, Dukes Place, Westminster, on June 21st 1681. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this sometimes known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.

I googled the Gatesman name and someone has stories about some Gatesman's name's were of german origin changing from Gotzmann -Gatesman in 1780.

That's a thought.

Maryb

this could possibly be his son

His records would be at the Narional Archives if they have survived. Not online though - you would have to go there or get someone to go for you and it's not a simple search! There is a partial index online and there's a George Gatesman, born Hampshire 1825 ish who was in the Royal Marines. Could this be some relation?

Elizabeth Edsall Gatesman married to George frederick Gatesman ,
1891 he was Lance Sargeant Medical Staff Corps,he was born 1850 to George Robert Gatesman and Elize nee Bucksley.

Maryb

sorry Ann. I dont know........I can only assume so

when I googled Frederick Gatesman and Jane Moore Hampshire there was someone who was looking for him back in 2000 they said he was a marine. Alas, there wasnt an email to contact the poster!

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Iv'e counted about 12-14 children to a Frederick and jane maybe there were many died at birth.
Interesting thing is they married 1803 and 1st child born about 1809 so maybe he was away at sea for the first 6 years of their marriege.
I can see only 3 sons George 1809,John frederick 1828 and george Robert Doling or boling Gatesman 1826 he married Eliza bucksley in 1849 and had William Alfred Gatesman 1868.
Can't find anything on Frederick 1777,as yet

Maryb

would this have been Royal Marines?

does anyone know if there is a place I can check marine records as I know he was one in 1803

LOL - it looks that way!

didn't clock that - keep it in the family eh!!!!

strange theres another Gatesman/Moore marriage!

Just wish I could find more about Frederick c1777!!!! or his wife Jane Moore

1881

Joseph HILL Head W Male 67 Dunbar, Scotland Superannuated Custom Officer
Samuel John HILL Son U Male 35 Southampton Shop Porter
James GATESMAN Son In Law Boarder M Male 28 Southampton Printer X1/1
Julia GATESMAN Daur M Female 30 Southampton Keeper Of House
Ena GATESMAN Grand Daur Female 1 Southampton


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Source Information:
Dwelling 4 West Cottages
Census Place Millbrook, Hampshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341299
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1221 / 14
Page Number 21

JANE ANN GATESMAN Pedigree
Female Family


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Marriages:
Spouse: THOMAS MOORE Family
Marriage: 14 JUN 1846 Alverstoke, Hampshire, England



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

found another child!!!


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JANE ANN GATESMAN Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 01 AUG 1810 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire, England

Death:
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Parents:
Father: FREDERICK GATESMAN Family
Mother: JANE


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

well she's not down as a widow so perhaps husband was away the day of the census

I'm on the free Mormon LDS site trying different forenames for Gatesmen men!!!

thanks Ann....trying to figure out who that Elizabeth Gateman is as she was born c1850.......with her calling her son Frederick there must be a link somewhere!

GEORGE GATESMAN Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 18 JAN 1809 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: FREDERICK GATESMAN Family
Mother: JANE


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

1881 - for reference
Elizabeth E. GATESMAN Wife (Head) M Female 31 Eling, Hampshire, England Soldiers Wife
Eliza W. GATESMAN Daur Female 5 Hampshire, England Scholar
Frederick J. GATESMAN Son Male 1 Netley, Hampshire, England
George W. GATESMAN Son Male 2 Netley, Hampshire, England


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Source Information:
Census Place Hound, Hampshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341298
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1216 / 54
Page Number 22