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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 11 Aug 2009 23:41

Hoping somone out there can help Am attempting to do my family tree and only having a few vague names am hoping Im on the right trackhere goes
My Grandmothers name was Clara Smith ,Her mother was called (we think )Selina Riddle she married a William Smith ,and I think Selinas mother was called Riddle she married a John Riddle they come from Cornwall and then she married a John Henry Tregellas also from Cornwall but they end up living in Oldham Im hoping Its the same family and not 2 familys with the same names .If anyones got any tips I would be most grateful.
Thanks
Jackey

Pappa

Pappa Report 11 Aug 2009 23:49

Dear Jackey,
Hi, i found this on Free bmd, a different Riddle lady.

Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%)
Riddle Mary Anne Oldham 8d 817
Tregellis John Henry Oldham 8d 817

Best wishes...Sam

Pappa

Pappa Report 11 Aug 2009 23:51

Also this for J H T in Truro,

Marriages Mar 1894 (>99%)
Ellery Thomas Truro 5c 220
Stevens Emily Truro 5c 220 S
Strongman Catherine Truro 5c 220
Tregilgus John Henry Truro 5c 220

Sam

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 11 Aug 2009 23:56

Thanks Sam I think they are one and the same lady its just that on one of the census her age dosnt square up by about 4 yrs difference so Im trying to cross check it with different sites it seems they are from Redruth in Cornwall and next week we are going to St Ives for a week so it would be nice to to visit Redruth but dont want to go on a wild goose chase searching a family thats not mine allthough Ive spent ages on it so I think I adopt her anyway haha
Jackey

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 11 Aug 2009 23:57

Marriages Jun 1902 (>99%)
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Chapman Mary Oldham 8d 1062
Riddle Selina Oldham 8d 1062
Shepherd John Oldham 8d 1062
Smith William Oldham 8d 1062

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 11 Aug 2009 23:59

1901

Address: 297, Rochdale Road, Crompton
DEAKIN, John Head Married M 25 1876 Mule Cotton Spinner
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
DEAKIN, Eliza J Wife Married F 26 1875
Burnley
Lancashire VIEW
DEAKIN, Sylvia A Daughter F 1 1900
Crompton
Lancashire VIEW
DEAKIN, Selina Daughter F 0 (8 MOS) 1901
Crompton
Lancashire VIEW
RIDDLE, Selina Sister-In-Law Single F 20 1881 Cotton Cardroom Hand
Brighouse
Yorkshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 Aug 2009 00:03


There are only half a dozen selina Riddles in 1901
None are born devon. this one from Somerset

1901
Address: 10, Dene Terrace, Wallbottle, Walbottle
BULL, Joseph A Head Married M 36 1865 Estate Joiner
Portsmouth
Hampshire VIEW
BULL, Selina Wife Married F 30 1871
North Shields
Northumberland VIEW
BULL, Charles G R Son M 1 1900
North Shields
Northumberland VIEW
BULL, Mary Agnes Daughter F 4 1897
North Shields
Northumberland VIEW
RIDDLE, Selina Mother-In-Law Married F 58 1843
Taunton
Somersetshire

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 12 Aug 2009 00:04

wow you find it out so quickly again wow have just started and am finding all a bit bewildering but am loving it am completley hooked.

Thanks Jackey

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 Aug 2009 00:05

1891

Address: 1, Thomas Street, Royton
TREGELLAS, John H Head Married M 41 1850 General Labourer
Penzance
Cornwall VIEW
TREGELLAS, Mary A Wife Married F 44 1847
Redruth
Cornwall VIEW
RIDDLE, Eliza Jane Daughter Single F 16 1875 Cardroom Hand
Burnley
Lancashire VIEW
RIDDLE, John Thos Son M 14 1877 Cotton Piecer
Royton
Lancashire VIEW
RIDDLE, Selina Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar
Broadbottom
Derbyshire VIEW
RIDDLE, Olivia Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar
Royton
Lancashire VIEW
TREGELLAS, Elizabeth G Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Ince
Lancashire VIEW
TREGELLAS, Ellen Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar
Ince
Lancashire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 Aug 2009 00:09

I think some of your relationships are not quite right

Can we go first to what you are absolutely sure of.
Then we work back.

When was Clara Smith born and where?
Do you have a birth certificate?

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 12 Aug 2009 00:10

I know what Ill be doing tomorrow
Thanks
Jackey

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 12 Aug 2009 00:17

Clara Smith was born in Oldham Nov 1902
Selina married william Smith in June 1902
and I think Mary ann Tregellas was Selinas mother
Selina had 9 children which I think Ive mannaged to trace
Jackey

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 Aug 2009 00:19

that looks like mary ann's second marriage and those her children from her first marriage.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 Aug 2009 00:22

Births Dec 1902 (>99%)
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Smith Clara Oldham 8d 716

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 12 Aug 2009 00:26

Thats what i thought its just she seemed to marry John riddle in Redruth then go to Oldham. so either John dies or they divorce Then she go to Redruth and marry John H Tregellas and then back in Oldham am assuming that that is were the work was,Just wanted to be as sure as i can be that I am on the right track never having done it before .
Jackey

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 Aug 2009 00:29

BINGO


1881

Address: 1, Lower Grimlies, Royton
RIDDLE, John Head Married M 39 1842 Stoker
Redruth
Cornwall
RIDDLE, Mary Ann Wife Married F 40 1841 House Wife
Redruth
Cornwall
RIDDLE, Eliza Jane Daughter Single F 6 1875
Royton
Lancashire
RIDDLE, John Thos Son Single M 4 1877
Royton
Lancashire
RIDDLE, Selina Daughter Single F 1 1880
Bread?
Lancashire
COWLING, Eliza Lodger Married F 28 1853 Speed Tenter Cotton Mill
Burnley
Lancashire
COWLING, Geo Hy Lodger Single M 5 1876
Burnley
Lancashire
COWLING, William Lodger Single M 2 1879
Burnley
Lancashire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 Aug 2009 00:32

1871

Address: Cardrew Lane, Redruth
RIDDLE, John Head M 27 1844 Cornwall VIEW
RIDDLE, Mary A Wife F 28 1843 Cornwall VIEW
RIDDLE, Eliza J Daughter F 3 1868 Cornwall VIEW
RIDDLE, Catherine Daughter F 1 1870 Cornwall

Pappa

Pappa Report 12 Aug 2009 00:33

Jackey,
Johns possible death,

Deaths Mar 1910 (98%)
Tregallis John Henry 59 Oldham 8d 464

Good luck with your research...Sam

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 12 Aug 2009 00:36

This may be the marriage.

Marriages Jun 1869 (>99%)
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GREENSLADE Mary Ann Redruth 5c 329
Riddle John Redruth 5c 329

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 12 Aug 2009 00:38

Thankyou so much for all your help its amazes me how you do it so quick.
Will let you know how i get on.
No doubt will be back on for some more help.
Ive become a bit obsessed at the moment
Its somthing i wished ihad done long ago
Once again Thankyou
Must sleep now
Jackey