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I am trying to find Sarah Ann Haw Birth about 1849-1851 I can find her on the census Married to Edward Edney living in Bermondsey, Surrey England and I think I have found their marriage cert 1871 St Olaves J/A/Sept but I can't find a birth cert or her appearing on a census b4 her marriage.

I have had hints saying Edward Edney married Sarah Ann Clarke but I can't find any information of this, and the hints don't have any either.

This is the last piece in the jig-saw that connect to family's who have been friends for years and didn't know they where related.

Can anyone HELP

what is her fathers name?

I don't have any more information sorry, I'm waiting for the marriage cert and just hoping Edward details are the same on it

Thank you for your help I know it not much to go on

for info to help those helping, this is the 1881 census showing Sarah with Edward Edney:

Name: Sarah A. Edney
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edward
Gender: Female
Where born: Surrey, England

Civil parish: Bermondsey
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 7 Millstream Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Mary Magdalen
ED, institution, or vessel: 10b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Edney 31
Sarah A. Edney 30
Elizabeth Edney 9
Hannah Edney 7
Jane Edney 5
Edward Edney 4
Thomas Edney

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 563; Folio: 2; Page: 4; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341128.

I think there have been a few mistrancriptions!
Sarah Ann How b 1849 Dec Q Pancras

1871 Southwark St John
Rachel How 43 widow Laundress b Paddington
William How 23 Solicitors Clerk b Lisson Grove Middx
Sarah A How 21 b. Kings x (which she gives as bithplace 1901)
Elizabeth 11 b Surrey St John
Thomas 8 b Surrey St JOhn

1861 Southwark St John
Edward Howe 36 Carman (birthplace illegible -could be Herts or Hants)
Rachel 35 b Marylebone
William 14 b Marylebone
Sarah 11 b St Pancras
Marrian 8 b St Pancras
Eliza 7 b St Pancras
Rachel 5 b St Pancras
Elizabeth 3 b Horsleydown Surrey

Thank you Helen and Gillian

Helen you have the right family, now its just trying to work out who Sarah Ann Edney was nee. Thank you for adding this information as I wasn't sure how to do it.

I did try putting different ways of spelling Haw, but it never came back with the same results as you got Gillian, most of my results were up north, I wish the postman would hurry up and come with the marriage cert now.

Rachel How died 1882 Dec Q St olave Southwark aged 54

The children all seem to have been registered as HOW except Marrian
William How 1847 Mar Q Marylebone
Sarah Ann How 1849 Dec Q Pancras
Eliza 1853 DecQ Marylebone
Rachel 1856 Mar Q St olave Southwark
Elizabeth 1858 Mar Q St olave Southwark

Marian HOWE 1854 Jun Q Marylebone

That 1861 is so difficult to read. Do you think the father's name could be Edmund instead of Edward???
Name: Edmund How
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 42
District: St Olave Southwark (1837-1901)
County: London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 53

Good luck,Theresa. Don't frighten the postman!!!!

Maureen

I don't know it could be the only things I'm sure about are its Edward Edney and Sarah Ann ????. Maureen you know my relationship with the postman, when I want something in a hurry he's on a go slow.

This is sooooooooo like a rerun of the Bouic.

Thanks you guys keep the information coming, and if the postman plays ball we will have some answers next week

Oh and the records office

Any good?

Births Dec 1849 (>99%)
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HOW Sarah Ann St Pancras 1 279

Had another squint at the birthplace for Edward in 1861 and think it could be Easthampstead, Berkshire -coincidentally the IGI has an Edward How b Easthamstead BUT in 1658!

Maureen in NY -think you could be right and he is Edmund!
There is a marriage 1845 Dec Q Kensington vol3 page 298 which woud fit

Edmund How to Rachel Suter

And here they are in 1851 (looks like the place of birth for Edmund is Hampstead not Easthampsted!)
1851 Islington 3 Alpha Place East
Edmund How 28 Carrier b hampstead Middx
Rachael How 31 b Islington
William 5 b Islington
Harriet 61 wid mother b Hampstead

And to confuse things still further there is a baptism on the IGI for Edmund How 3/2/1828 son of Joseph and Harriet in HEMEL HEMPSTEAD!
And 1841 has an Edmund How 15 as Male servant in the household of Thomas (of independent means) and Sarah How in Hemel Hempstead
Thats it from me -will await with baited breath the arrival of the postman!

No cert yet it should have been here today

Maybe tomorrow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think Gillian has likely passed out from lack of oxygen by now!!!

Maureen

The other potential couple on the 1871 marriage page

MUSGROVE Anna Maria St Olave 1d 254
PILLER George St Olave 1d 254

make a pretty good match with this couple (both born Devon) in 1881 in Southwark St John Horsleydown:

George Piller 34
Maria Piller 35
Charles Piller 7 - born Bermondsey
Jane Piller 6
Henry Piller 2
John Piller

So I'm placing my bet on that marriage cert being Haw-Edney. ;)

Not yet expired, Maureen, but still interested to know the outcome -lucky people who get post first thing in the morning -I'm doing well if mine arrives by 1pm!

Still No post, Please Gillian keep breathing, me and Maureen are old hands at this, it took for ever getting the Bouic cert.

Will give you an update again tomorrow

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